Submitting World Coins for Slabbing ?

Fairlaneman · January 18, 2004 11:47AM

Okay do not hang me for this question.

All I want to do is confirm that I am somewhere in the ball park when a grade is put on the coin. Just three or four coins would give me a idea plus I do not want to spend a ton of money either. Is ANACS Okay ? Somewhere else ?

Ken

ajaan · January 18, 2004 11:48AM

NGC IMO unless they are problem coins. Also, ICG is very good with World Coins in my opinion.

wybrit · January 18, 2004 11:49AM

The big three are all OK. I'll let the slabfiends weigh in. Ajaan? Aethelred? 1jester? Cosmic? (just kidding about the last two)

rhound1977 · January 18, 2004 11:55AM

Not sure what world coins you want to submit, but I agree with Don, both ANACS and NGC are good sources. I haven't used ICG so I can't
comment on them. ANACS is probably a little tougher on GB coins (which I mostly submit, but have done others). NGC is somewhat more
generous on their grades. They both have reasonable prices, right now NGC is $12.00. I submit my coins for a couple of reasons, confirm
the grade, preservation and protection. I'd rather replace a cracked slab for $5.00 than a coins for much more..

If I were to sell those coins I would feel more comfortable marketing them because of a professional opinion on grade, and the security
of it being genuine. No grading service is flawless in opinion or grade the buyer still has to be the judge. I have seen some ugly coins
in a slab.

Clankeye · January 18, 2004 12:17PM

Ken--

NGC would be the cheapest and have the fastest turn around time. You can submit coins to them at $11 apiece and they would probably be back within the month. That was my experience with them.

I will tell you out right that I would not submit Canadian coins to them, because I don't think they are taken very seriously in the Canadian market. I base that on watching auction results on eBay, and from things I have read from other collectors.

It is my opinion your toned coins stand a better shot at a higher grade at NGC. I think in "world" coins they are fairly well accepted.

For myself, I sent some of my serious Canadian coins to PCGS--the other submissions to NGC, I just was curious to a grade and how they would be viewed by professionals. Sounds about like your circumstance.

Clankeye

Aethelred · January 18, 2004 12:39PM

<< <i>The big three are all OK. I'll let the slabfiends weigh in. Ajaan? Aethelred? 1jester? Cosmic? (just kidding about the last two) >>

Slabfiend? Me? Why I have never been so insulted in my life!

Mr. Wybrit assumes that just because most of my milled British collection and a good bit of my hammered collection is slabbed I am somehow a "slabfiend." In fact nothing could be further from the truth, I am more of a "slab monkey."

I believe that at this time NGC offers the best value for your money. I have submitted coins to PCGS, NGC, ANACS and yes even ICG over the past six months. With the exception of British gold (because of the PCGS Registry Set), I'd rather submit my coins to NGC. I believe their rep with world collectors is slightly better than PCGS and ANACS and a good bit better than ICG.

Having your coins slabbed will avoid a great deal of conversation when it comes time to sell and provide a little comfort while you own them if you are not sure how to grade them yourself. You should keep in mind that the coins will be graded by US standards, not the standards of the country your coins came from, but I believe Krause prices are also based on US standards. If you are using somethink like Spink, you have to remember that a PCGS or NGC EF-40 is not the same as a British EF and adjust accordingly.

If you are buying something like a 1798 Guinea, of which there are a lot of fakes, I think it is a good idea to buy one that is slabbed. In a nutshell, yes slabbing has it's place in world coins.

SYRACUSIAN · January 18, 2004 3:19PM

Well, now you know. I submit to NGC, but I'm always after some nice ANACS coins

lordmarcovan · January 18, 2004 3:54PM

ANACS is fine, in answer to part of your question. I would trust PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG and ICCS, for the most part. People buying Darkside coins who have previous Liteside bias might pay a little more for PCGS or NGC, particularly in gold coins, but the Big Two probably don't lead by as wide a margin when you're talkin' Darkside coins. In fact, ANACS has proven just as good or better, at least in the past.

ICCS' cheesy looking plastic flip style "slabs" might turn off many with Liteside leanings, but I understand they are quite conservative in their grading. Of course, if you wanna slab ancients, ICG is once again the only game in town, it would seem, since ANACS no longer does it.

Where do my Darkside submissions go? It used to be ANACS, until my last Economy submission took nearly four months. Of course, turnaround on Economy level submissions is likely to be slow with anybody. We'll see how I do with the NGC stuff we sent off from the Orlando show. I submitted four Darkside pieces to NGC and four Liteside pieces to PCGS- it'll be interesting to see what happens. These are my first submissions in over a year.

canadiancoinguy · January 18, 2004 4:13PM

I use ICCS for everything (hey, usually <C$10 ea! Cheaper than everyone else!) since I'm on this side of the border. Can't comment much on US TPGs.

cosmicdebris · January 18, 2004 6:28PM

<< <i>slabfiends >>

Fairlaneman · January 18, 2004 7:50PM

cosmic:

wybrit put a qualifier in his post.....

Clank:

Exactly...This is a whole new Ball Game.

Thanks to all for the information. A few will be submitted to quench the curioristy.

Ken

SYRACUSIAN · January 19, 2004 5:05PM

I keep reopening this thread, just to look at Fairlaneman's icon. One of the best current icons of the entire CU !

Fairlaneman · January 19, 2004 5:29PM

SYRACUSIAN

Here it is.....

A PCGS Slabbed MS67 coin. I almost like the reverse better than the obverse.

Ken

spinaker2000 · January 19, 2004 10:13PM

Nice Merc, definately one of the top three US coin designs, has that darkside look to it.

My top three US designs:
.50 Walking Liberty
.25 Standing Liberty (1917)
.10 Liberty head

cosmicdebris · January 20, 2004 12:11AM

Nice fishing lure

Fairlaneman · January 20, 2004 12:24AM

Spinaker do you think I can get away with calling the Mercs a "Dark Side Type" coin here ?

After finally looking and buying some Darkside Coins it appears to me that the designers of the SLQ and Walker had some influence from other sources when they designed those coins for USA mintage. I believe a couple of influnce coins just may be in the signature line.

Bill we had a lot of Fun with that....Huh.....

Ken

Clankeye · January 20, 2004 12:35AM

Ken--

The French "Walker" such as you have pictured last in your sig pic, most certainly was an influence on Weinman and his design for the Walking Liberty 50c.

Clankeye

cosmicdebris · January 20, 2004 12:43AM

spinaker2000 · January 20, 2004 1:23AM

<< <i>Spinaker do you think I can get away with calling the Mercs a "Dark Side Type" coin here ? >>

Hey, they "are" Darkside to lots of members here!
To find a true American design you might have to start with the Franklin half.

lordmarcovan · January 20, 2004 1:39AM

Mercs are not Darkside in any way, but they ARE wonderful Liteside coins. 'Twas a 1936 Merc dime that launched me into the numismatic world, 28 years ago this Thanksgiving.

There are some coins that do double duty on either side of the Darkside/Liteside fence, though, like colonials and Philippine-American issues.

coinnerd · January 20, 2004 1:44AM

To find a true American design you might have to start with the Franklin half

I would start with the buffalo nickel. That is another great design on US coinage.

coinkat · January 20, 2004 9:00AM

High quality darkside coins can be a real challenge to find, but the market is different than the numbers game on the liteside. Slabbing is fine for some coins. I have been satisfied with NGC, PCGS and ANACS... I HAVE NOT LISTED IN ANY SPECIFIC ORDER

Submitting World Coins for Slabbing ?

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