Looks like a nice VG. I sold an 1805 that was similar to it at the FUN show. It was in an ANACS VG-10 holder.
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Yup, this one was pretty easy to grade, consensus VG8, Definitely better than a Good and won't make Fine. Plusses to the VG8 grade for decent detail and nice surfaces, minuses for a slightly uneven strike and 3 digs, two obverse in upper hair and one reverse below the eagle, these are likely contemporary "test" marks from when these coins were new. Merchants and others accepting coins in trade that they've never seen before would either scratch it to see it wasn't plated, or dig a small bit of silver out of the coin to test with chemicals and verify silver content.
The +plusses and -minuses balance and we're left with 8 although I could also argue for G6 and VG10, depending on if I were buying or selling
This set of dies got quite a bit of use, this is the 1806 B-1, the 6 punched over a 5 in the date, they were also used to strike the 1805 B-4 coins, which of course show all the same spacial relationships among the stars and legend as this variety.
A surprisingly tough coin to find nice, I looked for a couple years before locating this one.
If anyone else has this variety, I'd be interested in seeing a pic. Thanks!
The problem that I have with grading bust coins is that the strike is more often weak than strong, making them look more worn than they really are. Rather than the more modern assumption of a reasonably good strike. It's the same problem with grading '20's buffalos.
It is interesting that the die was previously used in 1805. In the half dollar series, the only overdate die that was used is 1806/5 O.104, used on 1805 O.105 and O.106, the reverse die was also used on 1805 102, 108, 110, and 114. Both dies in terminal state have peripheral cracks and cuds. All other overdates were obverse dies that were prepared, but not used until they were overdated.
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It is interesting that the die was previously used in 1805. In the half dollar series, the only overdate die that was used is 1806/5 O.104, used on 1805 O.105 and O.106, the reverse die was also used on 1805 102, 108, 110, and 114. Both dies in terminal state have peripheral cracks and cuds. All other overdates were obverse dies that were prepared, but not used until they were overdated.
Such as the 1805/4, which obviously was never used before being overdated, since there are no 1804 half dollars.
VG8. And damn cool. Thtat's one of the 3 types of quarters I need to get to "complete" my quarter "set". The last 3 types I need are a bit out of my league at the moment.
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possibly Vg-8 with a little uneven wear.
looks gradeable.
These coins were often weakly struck...
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G-6 and i would say real
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can't address originality issue because your digi-pic looks sky-blue, but seems reasonable.
ridiculously undervalued series, imo.
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The +plusses and -minuses balance and we're left with 8 although I could also argue for G6 and VG10, depending on if I were buying or selling
This set of dies got quite a bit of use, this is the 1806 B-1, the 6 punched over a 5 in the date, they were also used to strike the 1805 B-4 coins, which of course show all the same spacial relationships among the stars and legend as this variety.
A surprisingly tough coin to find nice, I looked for a couple years before locating this one.
If anyone else has this variety, I'd be interested in seeing a pic. Thanks!
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It is interesting that the die was previously used in 1805. In the half dollar series, the only overdate die that was used is 1806/5 O.104, used on 1805 O.105 and O.106, the reverse die was also used on 1805 102, 108, 110, and 114. Both dies in terminal state have peripheral cracks and cuds. All other overdates were obverse dies that were prepared, but not used until they were overdated.
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Its not as nice as the PCGS AG03 that I have....will try to post a picture in the next day or two.
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It is interesting that the die was previously used in 1805. In the half dollar series, the only overdate die that was used is 1806/5 O.104, used on 1805 O.105 and O.106, the reverse die was also used on 1805 102, 108, 110, and 114. Both dies in terminal state have peripheral cracks and cuds. All other overdates were obverse dies that were prepared, but not used until they were overdated.
Such as the 1805/4, which obviously was never used before being overdated, since there are no 1804 half dollars.
interesting!
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Craig, did you ever find that picture? I'm curious to see your coin.
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let's see the other two!
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