Grade the 1806/5 Draped Bust Quarter!

Baley · January 11, 2004 4:58AM

this just in: what do you think?

grade?
"original"?

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jdimmick · January 11, 2004 5:08AM

Good-6,

possibly Vg-8 with a little uneven wear.

looks gradeable.

mgoodm3 · January 11, 2004 5:10AM

I want to say G-6 also. VG details, some focal worse wear. that's a strong overdate.

coinlieutenant · January 11, 2004 5:11AM

VG,

These coins were often weakly struck...

tippingmyhat · January 11, 2004 5:18AM

Hi,

G-6 and i would say real

Dave99B · January 11, 2004 5:20AM

VG-8, with uneven wear. Real.

Dave

BillJones · January 11, 2004 5:43AM

Looks like a nice VG. I sold an 1805 that was similar to it at the FUN show. It was in an ANACS VG-10 holder.

Colorfulcoins · January 11, 2004 7:06AM

VG8 butthe rim wear on obv at 7 o'clock could kick it down to G6.....my 2 cents

dorkkarl · January 11, 2004 9:23PM

no-question vg-8. rims are slightly faint in spots due to strike, but rev. motto is better than typical vg.

can't address originality issue because your digi-pic looks sky-blue, but seems reasonable.

ridiculously undervalued series, imo.

K S

nepbrs44 · January 11, 2004 9:24PM

VG8

Baley · January 13, 2004 12:33AM

Yup, this one was pretty easy to grade, consensus VG8, Definitely better than a Good and won't make Fine. Plusses to the VG8 grade for decent detail and nice surfaces, minuses for a slightly uneven strike and 3 digs, two obverse in upper hair and one reverse below the eagle, these are likely contemporary "test" marks from when these coins were new. Merchants and others accepting coins in trade that they've never seen before would either scratch it to see it wasn't plated, or dig a small bit of silver out of the coin to test with chemicals and verify silver content.

The +plusses and -minuses balance and we're left with 8 although I could also argue for G6 and VG10, depending on if I were buying or selling

This set of dies got quite a bit of use, this is the 1806 B-1, the 6 punched over a 5 in the date, they were also used to strike the 1805 B-4 coins, which of course show all the same spacial relationships among the stars and legend as this variety.

A surprisingly tough coin to find nice, I looked for a couple years before locating this one.

If anyone else has this variety, I'd be interested in seeing a pic. Thanks!

mgoodm3 · January 13, 2004 12:39AM

The problem that I have with grading bust coins is that the strike is more often weak than strong, making them look more worn than they really are. Rather than the more modern assumption of a reasonably good strike. It's the same problem with grading '20's buffalos.

Nysoto · January 13, 2004 12:46AM

Baley,

It is interesting that the die was previously used in 1805. In the half dollar series, the only overdate die that was used is 1806/5 O.104, used on 1805 O.105 and O.106, the reverse die was also used on 1805 102, 108, 110, and 114. Both dies in terminal state have peripheral cracks and cuds. All other overdates were obverse dies that were prepared, but not used until they were overdated.

nankraut · January 13, 2004 1:03AM

I LOVE THESE COINS!!! (because they're actually older than I am). IMHO, this is a strong VG. Should slab with no problem, I think.

Colorfulcoins · January 13, 2004 1:14AM

Here's an 1806/5 ANACS AG03 that's coming up on Teletrade next Wednesday:

Teletrade 1806/5

Its not as nice as the PCGS AG03 that I have....will try to post a picture in the next day or two.

tjkillian · January 13, 2004 1:59AM

An original looking, strong, VG-10. A very nice looking quarter.

Tom

Baley · January 18, 2004 4:50AM

Nysoto,

It is interesting that the die was previously used in 1805. In the half dollar series, the only overdate die that was used is 1806/5 O.104, used on 1805 O.105 and O.106, the reverse die was also used on 1805 102, 108, 110, and 114. Both dies in terminal state have peripheral cracks and cuds. All other overdates were obverse dies that were prepared, but not used until they were overdated.

Such as the 1805/4, which obviously was never used before being overdated, since there are no 1804 half dollars.

interesting!

Baley · May 4, 2004 6:35AM

Its not as nice as the PCGS AG03 that I have....will try to post a picture in the next day or two.

Craig, did you ever find that picture?

I'm curious to see your coin.

JadeRareCoin · May 4, 2004 6:42AM

I just got this coin (and 2 even nicer ones) in yesterday:

I looooove early type!

Baley · May 20, 2004 3:50PM

nice coin, only "lightly cleaned long ago and now retoning nicely",

let's see the other two!

relayer · May 20, 2004 3:59PM

VG8

DominusDeus · May 20, 2004 6:50PM

VG8. And damn cool. Thtat's one of the 3 types of quarters I need to get to "complete" my quarter "set". The last 3 types I need are a bit out of my league at the moment.

Baley · August 8, 2004 4:50AM

Here's one that recently got a lot of bidding action!

dorkkarl · August 8, 2004 9:17PM

price seems appropriate for that ebay coin.

K S

Grade the 1806/5 Draped Bust Quarter!

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