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Australia 1813 Holey dollar

laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
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Have I had my head in the sand not to know this coin existed?

AUSTRALIA. New South Wales
Holey Dollar of 5 Shillings, 1813

Lot 793 in Stack's January 13, 2004
International Sale.

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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    So they drilled a huge hole in a Spanish piece of 8?? Wow. I wonder about the silver content now, however. It seems it is way less than before. I guess that's early inflation for you...image

    Really cool piece!

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  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Those are really cool.. heckuva chopmark, eh? image But I'll never own one image

    They made modern bullion issues with holes in them based on this too.

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  • tbirde56tbirde56 Posts: 2,161
    The 'dump' 15 pence that made up the center is also a neat and expensive piece.
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  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    I was wondering what they did with the punchout... must look kinda neat-a disembodied face and shoulders. A 15 pence "dump" you called it-what are they worth?
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    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • canadiancoinguycanadiancoinguy Posts: 405
    Cool, I've never actually seen a picof one (outside of Krause). Reminds me of the P.E.I. holey dollar of the same period.
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  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
    There was a rare one, with its dump, auctioned off a couple years ago or so. It was big news.
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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    They are the 1804 dollar of Australian numismatics.

    The first government in Australia had a hard time keeping coins in circulation. Traders who came by oftentimes took the 8 reales coins they were using valued at 5 shillings, so they punched out the center to intentionally make they overvalued. The holey dollar kept the nominal value of 5 shillings, and the punched out "dump" was valued at 15 pence. The dumps were worth more as bullion than their nominal value, so they continued to disappear from circulation.
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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    BTW, would PCGS slab a damaged coin like this? image
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  • hookedoncoinshookedoncoins Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    Wow... its like 2 coins in one.

    Very interesting.
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Cool coin
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  • ShipcoinShipcoin Posts: 1,243
    Very cool and cozy coin, Laurent! image

    Thanks for posting us that scan!
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  • secretsquirrelsecretsquirrel Posts: 36
    A dump in a low grade of VG would set you back thousands.
    The Holey Dollar and Dump are also coins i would love but will never own unless i had a big lotto win image

    Sorry to dig up an old topic lol but i did a search on australian stuff image
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    I'd like to own one of those sets too!

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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • gxseriesgxseries Posts: 423
    I actually saw that with my real eyes in a coin fair that occured here... image

    Of course the price tag was something way beyond my hands... image
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