please grade this barber quarter

nalamolly5 · December 30, 2003 4:42AM

i was surfing ebay looking for a nice example of a barber quarter for my type set and came across ebay #2211033719, which i ended up buying. the coin is sitting on my desk, and is a beautifully toned steel grey, unlike the pictures, but the coin is undoubtedly the same. the color is fine, and detail is just as it is in the description. i would like your impressions as to the grade, before i submit it to pcgs, thanks.

nwcs · December 30, 2003 4:47AM

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MSD61 · December 30, 2003 4:47AM

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nwcs · December 30, 2003 4:48AM

Based on the picture, I would say MS-63 seems right.

Russ · December 30, 2003 4:48AM

Good thing I refreshed before I posted, or I'd have looked really slow.

I'll WAG that coin at AU50.

Russ, NCNE

UncleJoe · December 30, 2003 4:52AM

Tough to tell from a scan where you can't tilt the coin but I have to agree with Russ. This coin appears to be AU.

Joe.

mgoodm3 · December 30, 2003 5:03AM

voila. here's the pic.

millennium · December 30, 2003 5:24AM

Just curious...those of you that gave it an AU...what reason?

BigD5 · December 30, 2003 5:33AM

If the toning is good (seems to be, but can't tell for sure from the pic.), and there aren't any hairlines, you'll get au/55-58 out of that coin from PCGS. Au/50 is probably too low.
If you look at the hair on the brow, and the leaves of the headband, notice the "softness"? On the reverse, if you look at the Eagle's wingtips, and the talons, they lack detail. Could be from a weak strike, but the overall "look" of the coin leads you to believe it circulated a bit. The luster doesn't seem "crisp", but rather flat, like it passed hands a bit before someone put it away.
Good luck with the submission, and let us know how it comes back. You paid market value (close enough) for an au/58, so hopefully that's where it falls, if not sneaking in at ms/61 or 2, which is very possible.

UncleJoe · December 30, 2003 5:35AM

Again, it may be the scan but the luster appears dull and there appears to be rubs or breaks in the luster particularly on the reverse.

This one needs to be seen "in hand" to be accurate.

Joe.

Russ · December 30, 2003 5:40AM

<< <i>Just curious...those of you that gave it an AU...what reason? >>

On the obverse, there appears to be rub on some of the leaves of the headband, as well as the top of the cap. On the reverse, there appears to be rub across the top of the eagle's wings, as well as his legs.

Russ, NCNE

clw54 · December 30, 2003 5:41AM

AU55

nalamolly5 · December 30, 2003 5:44AM

i was hoping for au58, i guess we will find out soon enough.

thanks for the input,
jose

clw54 · December 30, 2003 5:46AM

<< <i>Just curious...those of you that gave it an AU...what reason? >>

Compare it to this PCGS MS64.

The 64 has sharp detail that isn't present on the 1909-D.

coinkat · December 30, 2003 9:32AM

I like the coin. It is a minimum of AU58. It could grade higher, but I would need to see the coin and not rely on the scan. I have a feeling it looks better in person. Once you get the coin, tells what you think.

nalamolly5 · December 30, 2003 10:13AM

i have received the coin, and i think it will get a 58. i wanted something that had nice toning, and this definitely has it, a nice gun barrel grayish/blue, unlike the seller's photo. i am very happy with the coin's appearance for the price i paid.

jose

jdimmick · December 30, 2003 10:25AM

Photo's suck to try to grade accurately, but at least Au-55, 58

sinin1 · December 30, 2003 10:26AM

does the coin look like the picture?

the reason I ask is the picture looks like it could have been computer enlarged - causing fuzzyiness on face and field in front of nose and mouth - but I can't explain why the blue background looks so good

If picture is good representation - then I go AU55 - wear/rub on cheek and infield in front of eye and mouth

nalamolly5 · December 30, 2003 10:44AM

the coin does look like the scan, at least detail-wise. but i think it is more of a soft strike, rather than rub. i wish i had a camera to give a better look.

Cam40 · December 30, 2003 10:50AM

Uncirc 62

Baley · December 30, 2003 11:17AM

Nice looking coin!

appears to grade AU61 or so.

JRocco · December 30, 2003 11:24AM

Not an expert on this series, but I would lean toward AU55

tjkillian · December 30, 2003 12:05PM

To me, the difference between AU-58 and MS-63 is surface preservation. When you look at the coin, does it have a lot of "circulation" marks? The appearance of a rub could be cabinet friction, etc. Check for excessive marks on the cheek and in the fields. Of course luster is a big part, see how much it has and breaks, if any. I would call it MS-63 due to lack of marks.

Tom

nankraut · December 30, 2003 12:24PM

I'm with Russ on this one...AU-50 or so; but I think it'll probably come back in a pcgs body bag due to AT.

darktone · December 30, 2003 12:34PM

au55

sinin1 · December 30, 2003 12:43PM

After reading the sellers description again - I think maybe BU 58

FatMan · December 30, 2003 12:44PM

I'm guessing cleaned and retoned. BB material.

Cam40 · December 30, 2003 1:49PM

lol, damn you guys are rough.

technically it may be a 55 but you can market grade it (its an oldie) low mint state and not be unreasonably
fair IMO.

Lets ask D Hall.

please grade this barber quarter

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