Did you sent it to PCGS? How do you know it's counterfeit? >>
I don't know why you are screaming off topic and all you have to do to know that it's not a regal issue is look at it. Which, if you haven't picked up on it already, is the moral of this story - don't pass yourself as an authority and charge people for opinions on subjects that you know little or nothing about.
<< <i>What does that mean in engish? Its a genuine coin but not labeled right? >>
It's a 1775 counterfeit British made 1/2d, which is worth far more than a genuine 1775 British 1/2d. Somehow I got the idea that when one pays money to have a coin 'certified' by an 'expert' that the coin was supposed to be correctly attributed. Fortunately for the seller collectors in this particular area are smart enough to think for themselves, buy the coin and not the slab and, I predict in the end, bid it up to a level that a coin like this would normally command. BTW: from the scans it's grossly undergraded.
As British made (as opposed to American made, which are grouped together under the heading of 'Machin's) counterfeit 1/2d and farthings were the most common small denomination coinage in early America they have become the focus of intense study in recent years. Those interested in the series might want to join the egroup devoted to this subject. Link to the group
The one monograph on the subject is "The Forgottten Coins of the North American Colonies" by William T. Anton and Bruce Kesse, published by Krause Publications.
"Fortunately for the seller collectors in this particular area are smart enough to think for themselves, buy the coin and not the slab and, I predict in the end, bid it up to a level that a coin like this would normally command." --abuell
Those Darksiders also have this unseemly habit of breaking coins out of their coffins (sl*bs)....
.....GOD
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
Well, it just looks fake. Compare it to a real one and you'll see.
.....GOD
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
I was high bidder on this coin until just a bit ago. I am not sure from looking at the (not very clear) scan that this coin is indeed a counterfeit, however that would be a nice treat for the winning bidder if it were the case. Alas that person will not be me, I placed a high bid of $45.51 which is all the coin is worth to me (counterfeit or otherwise).
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The picture is crummy but I agree with Abuell, it's a contemporary counterfeit. The shape of the shield is wrong, the dat figures don' look right, and the genuine halfpence were usually better struck up than that piece.
US coins are a microscopic area of the Darkside....
.....GOD
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
Counterfeit British halfpence did circulate here in the US and in the 1770's British half pence both genuine and counterfeit made up the bulk of the copper coins in circulation here. Several mints here made counterfeit British half pence as well. So they have some claim to the lightside.
PCGS doesn't always attribute British made counterfeit halfpence as genuine Tower Mint products, sometimes they attribute British made counterfeit halfpence as Machin's halfpence!Linko
I still own the coin too. I haven't done much in the area of research, but now will. I'll also take it to Long Beach and have the experts look at it along with a copy of this Thread.
<< <i>Why is the auction link showing pics of a $2 bill sheet? >>
I see that, too. I think it is because the seller probably used the same name for this $2.00 bill auction that he did for that coin. HOWEVER, the confusing part is that this auction in the original link is about 6 months old and should no longer be viewable on eBay.
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Sorry.
Did you sent it to PCGS? How do you know it's counterfeit?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>OT! OT! OT!
Sorry.
Did you sent it to PCGS? How do you know it's counterfeit? >>
I don't know why you are screaming off topic and all you have to do to know that it's not a regal issue is look at it. Which, if you haven't picked up on it already, is the moral of this story - don't pass yourself as an authority and charge people for opinions on subjects that you know little or nothing about.
Its a genuine coin but not labeled right?
<< <i>What does that mean in engish?
Its a genuine coin but not labeled right? >>
It's a 1775 counterfeit British made 1/2d, which is worth far more than a genuine 1775 British 1/2d. Somehow I got the idea that when one pays money to have a coin 'certified' by an 'expert' that the coin was supposed to be correctly attributed. Fortunately for the seller collectors in this particular area are smart enough to think for themselves, buy the coin and not the slab and, I predict in the end, bid it up to a level that a coin like this would normally command. BTW: from the scans it's grossly undergraded.
how do you know it is counterfeit? did you used to own it?
How can you tell its counterfeit from that fuzzy picture?
The one monograph on the subject is "The Forgottten Coins of the North American Colonies" by William T. Anton and Bruce Kesse, published by Krause Publications.
Those Darksiders also have this unseemly habit of breaking coins out of their coffins (sl*bs)....
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
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1987-C Hendersonville Road
Asheville, NC 28803
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"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
Cameron Kiefer
Must be JamminJ's bad influence.
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
<< <i>Hey darksiders, stay where you belong! >>
Counterfeit British halfpence did circulate here in the US and in the 1770's British half pence both genuine and counterfeit made up the bulk of the copper coins in circulation here. Several mints here made counterfeit British half pence as well. So they have some claim to the lightside.
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<< <i>Why is the auction link showing pics of a $2 bill sheet?
I see that, too. I think it is because the seller probably used the same name for this $2.00 bill auction that he did for that coin. HOWEVER, the confusing part is that this auction in the original link is about 6 months old and should no longer be viewable on eBay.