What is your best homerun on a coin submisson?

fivecents · October 29, 2003 9:38PM

What is the best homerun you have ever made on a coin submisson to the big two: NGC or PCGS?

I submitted a 2000 Library of Congress 10$ platinum and gold that made a PCGS MS70. I also cracked a 1896( I think that is the correct date) 20$ gold liberty out of a PCGS MS63 rattler and it made it into a NGC ms64 holder.

jbsteven · October 29, 2003 9:41PM

1878s Morgan in a 66 holder went to a NGC67 holder (3,500 profit)

nwcs · October 29, 2003 9:43PM

1955 25C that graded MS-66 on economy submission and a 1955 50C that graded 66FL on the same submission.

LincolnCentMan · October 29, 2003 9:47PM

I had a 93-S dollar upgrade from a F15 to a VF20 in a submission once. That's probably the best "homerun" I've had. I dont think I've lost money on a submission yet, so that in it's self might be concidered a pretty nice batting average.

David

darktone · October 29, 2003 10:10PM

I think the homerun is made on the buying end of it not the subsmission part of it. I have had a couple of $2,000 hits in the last couple of years. mike

pontiacinf · October 29, 2003 10:37PM

mine:

I left em raw

relayer · October 29, 2003 10:39PM

PR70DCAM's from the mint

XpipedreamR · October 29, 2003 11:06PM

I sent a nice reasonably priced '39 10c proof to PCGS and it came back 67. I was hoping for 65, maybe 66, if I was really lucky.

wondercoin · October 29, 2003 11:09PM

I got a coin on consignment not too long ago which my consignor asked me to promptly sell (an under $10k coin). After I got it, I suggested I try it for upgrade, which I did. It quickly upgraded and I sold it a week later to a major dealer for $26,000 more than my consignor's asking price. Needless to say, my consignor was appreciative of the extra money, gave me a very fair share of the upgrade and proceeded to consign hundreds of thousands of dollars more in coins as a consequence.

Of course, it would have been just as easy to write my consignor a check for under $10k in the firstplace, keep the coin myself and make all the money, so I count this one as a "homerun" for me on a coin submission

Wondercoin

nucklehead · October 29, 2003 11:25PM

I've never submitted,but I just wanted to compliment you on the clever thread title.

jcping · October 29, 2003 11:29PM

Cross-over ANACS 1918/7-S AU53 SLQ to PCGS AU53FH.
Cross-over NGC 1926-D MS62 SLQ to PCGS AU58FH.

techeff · October 30, 2003 12:06AM

I'm new and took quite a beating on most of my submissions. I'm over it now, but I was fortunate with this one...
MS65 (I was expecting a 63)

Lori · October 30, 2003 12:11AM

1964 Kennedy

PCGS PR69DCAM

Found in a $15 proof set.

Lori

BillJones · October 30, 2003 12:45AM

Hi Techeff!

You 1881-CC dollar is just one more example of how the services often overgrade Carson City dollars. The coin should have gone into an MS-64 holder. There are too many marks on the cheek to be graded MS-65.

mintluster · October 30, 2003 12:50AM

I got a State quarter in change at work, sent it to PCGS and it came back an MS-70!!

mintluster · October 30, 2003 12:52AM

Just kidding!
I have never really had a "home run"
I have done very well in my grading results from PCGS.
My crossover rate is really high.
I either get the same grade or 1 higher 95% of the time.
Once I went up 2 grades on an undergraded Morgan Dollar.
But since it was only a few hundred bucks difference I still would not consider that a "homerun."

MJPHELAN · October 30, 2003 1:04AM

Crossed an ANACS 1946 D/D Jefferson MS-65 5 steps to PCGS MS-66 FS.

barberlover · October 30, 2003 1:06AM

The last coin I bought before I left the hobby for a while in 89 was a raw type date saint that the dealer wanted 63 money for, at the time, that was 1000 dollars, I looked that coin over carefully and agreed to pay 1 k for it raw, submitted to pcgs and got a 64, sold it for either 1600 or 1700 don't remember exactly.

Les

paigowjohnny · October 30, 2003 1:08AM

I've submitted 3 coins to the "big two"...2 to NGC, 1 to PCGS. All 3 were bagged, so in stead of a home run, I've struck out...

techeff · October 30, 2003 1:21AM

... Were it not for the minor superficial scrapes on the obverse, I wouldn't be surprised if this coin got a 67 - it sure looks to have the strike and luster. -- by Gilbert, on 10/22

You 1881-CC dollar is just one more example of how the services often overgrade Carson City dollars. The coin should have gone into an MS-64 holder. There are too many marks on the cheek to be graded MS-65. -- by BillJones

Now that's a big difference in opinion...

Lakesammman · October 30, 2003 1:48AM

My best was NOT submitting a coin, something I was tempted to do last year. It's a 1856 FE cent, S3, PCGS MS65. It would have come back proof, valued at half the current MS value (by the "market")

Russ · October 30, 2003 1:53AM

LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE

1 21257842 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR68DC
1 21257843 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR65DC

Date Received: 03/05/2003
Date Shipped: 04/08/2003

Proof sets, $27.50 each.

Russ, NCNE

clackamas · October 30, 2003 2:48AM

1951-P Lincoln - Now a POP 4/0 MS67RD

291fifth · October 30, 2003 2:56AM

<< Hi Techeff!

You 1881-CC dollar is just one more example of how the services often overgrade Carson City dollars. The coin should have gone into an MS-64 holder. There are too many marks on the cheek to be graded MS-65. >>

I agree. The coin is really no better than 64. It will be interesting to see what happens when it comes time to sell. It has been my experience that obviously overgraded coins, such as this one, don't do well when it comes time to sell...even if they are in a PCGS holder.

gemtone65 · October 30, 2003 3:10AM

I received a scarce half dollar back from PCGS which was graded MS65, and worth about $10,000. Along with the slab came the paperwork of the graders, who all listed the coin as grading MS66. I surmised that 1) the paperwork was sent by mistake, and 2) the finalizer changed the grade to MS65. My home run came when I sent the coin directly back to homerunhall, who surported the MS66 grade, had it slabbed that way, and sent it back to me. Current value: $40,000.

Deadhorse · October 30, 2003 4:14AM

I've had a couple but my most recent favorite is a 37S Merc dime that I bought in a lot of 10 from eBay for $12 including shipping.

Came back from NGC as MS67FB. Not too shabby for a buck twenty plus grading.....

Russ · October 30, 2003 4:14AM

<< I received a scarce half dollar back from PCGS which was graded MS65, and worth about $10,000. Along with the slab came the paperwork of the graders, who all listed the coin as grading MS66. I surmised that 1) the paperwork was sent by mistake, and 2) the finalizer changed the grade to MS65. >>

A finalizer has that kind of power? He can just willy-nilly override the consensus of multiple graders? That's more than a little disconcerting. That being the case, what the hell is the point of consensus grading?

At least, in this case, it worked out and you got the grade you deserved.

Russ, NCNE

cosmicdebris · October 30, 2003 5:44AM

Submitted 8 coins once and all came back PR69DCAM.

MapMaker · October 30, 2003 6:18AM

<< Hi Techeff!

You 1881-CC dollar is just one more example of how the services often overgrade Carson City dollars. The coin should have gone into an MS-64 holder. There are too many marks on the cheek to be graded MS-65. >>

I agree that this 81-CC is not a 65 and I doubt that this is in a PCGS holder!

<< Hi Techeff! Let us know who's holder its in????
Thanks, MapMaker.

dragon · October 30, 2003 6:25AM

A long time ago I cracked out an old NGC holder 1923-D Saint in MS64 that went MS66 at PCGS.

dragon

ZEBRA18 · October 30, 2003 6:27AM

4-2002 West Point Commemoratives 1 PR70DCAM 1/1, $3500.00
1 PR69DCAM Kept it
1 MS69 Kept it
1 MS70 About the 10th one! $625.00

Those were the good ol days!!!!
Still have 6 PR70DCAMS, 28 MS70s. I had a total of 11 PR70DCAMs made,and 52 MS70s.
Just Modern Junk, but what the heck,,,,,,,,

jbsteven · October 30, 2003 7:16AM

Russ

yes the finalizer can down or upgrade whatever the other graders state. both PCGS and NGC run this way.

mozeppa · October 30, 2003 7:23AM

1990 lincoln no s....pcgs 68 dcam

ksteelheader · October 30, 2003 7:39AM

Homerun!!!! I haven't even figured out how to bunt yet.....Ken

Typetone · October 30, 2003 8:11AM

I bought a PCGS PR67CAM Franklin from Rick Tomaska. I sent it for regrading, and it came back 68DCAM. It remains in my collection. Thanks to Rick, for selling the best!! This is not the only coin I bought from Rick that has upgraded.

Greg

merz2 · October 30, 2003 8:16AM

I think most of you old timers know mine.For the newer members, I sent in and received the first Cameo designation on an early date Lincoln Proof.

darktone · October 30, 2003 8:20AM

<< A finalizer has that kind of power? He can just willy-nilly override the consensus of multiple graders? That's more than a little disconcerting. That being the case, what the hell is the point of consensus grading? >>

Contrary to popular belief moderns are graded by one grader not a consensus

. mike

Russ · October 30, 2003 8:28AM

<< Contrary to popular belief moderns are graded by one grader not a consensus >>

He wasn't discussing a modern coin.

<< yes the finalizer can down or upgrade whatever the other graders state. both PCGS and NGC run this way. >>

If I were working on the grading team and all of us arrived at the same grade only to have the finalizer summarily dismiss it and change it to what he thought it was, that would be my last day on the job. It's a ridiculous system that should not be marketed as "consensus".

Russ, NCNE

coinkat · October 30, 2003 9:17AM

The finalizer... I wonder if that is the title for the job?

paigowjohnny · October 30, 2003 9:19AM

<< The finalizer... I wonder if that is the title for the job? >>

Actually, I believe it is !! If so, one of the coolest job titles out there....
I'm looking forward to "Master and Commander"

jonesy · October 30, 2003 10:26AM

I have only submitted 30 or so coins so I can say in the first game of the season, I hit one. I got a 1946D Lincoln Cent to MS67RD. Got it from a roll purchased around 1986.

Coinosaurus · October 30, 2003 10:30AM

Sent in a raw 45 that came back 50 - along with a $3000 uptick in the price!

Sorry, I can't say what coin, my dealer might be reading this

techeff · October 30, 2003 11:31AM

<< Hi Techeff! Let us know who's holder its in????
Thanks, MapMaker.

MapMaker, It's in a PCGS hoder... Cert# 21366344

Here is what another board member (Gilbert) said the first time I posted the pics... Which I was pretty happy about until you guys brought me down...

...Those marks a really superficial and the coin looks to still have its original "skin". Did you cherrypick this coin or did you just get lucky?

Anyway, protect that baby with your life. Not many like that around, and if you should ever get an inkling to do something that would disturb this original, just find one of us oldheads to relinquish it to.

Here's a little somewhat insignificant tip on evaluating the reverse of a Morgan: look at the detail of the eagle's right toe(s). When the detail is there, you MAY be onto to something.

Were it not for the minor superficial scrapes on the obverse, I wouldn't be surprised if this coin got a 67 - it sure looks to have the strike and luster. -- Gilbert

coinkat · October 30, 2003 11:47AM

Techeff:

your 81-CC is a very attractive coin. I think I said 64 when I saw it but keep in mind that we are looking at either a large scan or a photo and not the coin which makes a difference in this state of preservation. I like your coin... MS65 is not unreasonable at all.

MapMaker · October 30, 2003 12:20PM

<< << Hi Techeff! Let us know who's holder its in????
Thanks, MapMaker.

MapMaker, It's in a PCGS hoder... Cert# 21366344

Here is what another board member (Gilbert) said the first time I posted the pics... Which I was pretty happy about until you guys brought me down...

...Those marks a really superficial and the coin looks to still have its original "skin". Did you cherrypick this coin or did you just get lucky?

Anyway, protect that baby with your life. Not many like that around, and if you should ever get an inkling to do something that would disturb this original, just find one of us oldheads to relinquish it to.

Here's a little somewhat insignificant tip on evaluating the reverse of a Morgan: look at the detail of the eagle's right toe(s). When the detail is there, you MAY be onto to something.

Were it not for the minor superficial scrapes on the obverse, I wouldn't be surprised if this coin got a 67 - it sure looks to have the strike and luster. -- Gilbert >>

I think you are very fortunate to have this 81-CC in a PCGS holder @ MS-65 A true 65 should not have this many marks on it.
A.N.A. GRADING GUIDE: Quote, MS-65 Contact Marks: Light and scattered WITHOUT major distracting marks in prime focal areas.
So I guess its up to what you consider major distracting marks.
Regards, MapMaker

cameoproofcoins · October 30, 2003 12:31PM

I bought a proof coin at least ten years ago as a 67. I purchased the same date at auction in a 68 holder, and it was a pop one. I recently resubmitted the 67 and it came back 68. So now I own the only two 68's and I paid about six times the amount for the second one as I did the first.

GaCoinGuy · October 30, 2003 12:49PM

A 1969 25C in PR69DCAM (24/0 at the time) from a $5 proof set off EBay. Later sold that coin for about $400.

skate4357 · October 30, 2003 12:52PM

I bought a 1970-S proof set from Ebay at $12.00. I noticed the Penny was a small date. I sumitted the whole set and low and behold the 1970-S Small Date Penny came back to me as a PR69RD . I have reserched the coin and found out it is a POP 1. What do you think it will bring??????

Any other suggestions?

keoj · October 30, 2003 12:59PM

The best that I have is a 77-S Trade Dollar that was fully PL in an ANACS 58 holder. Sent it in for a PCGS cross and it came back a PCGS-61. Now, if only I could convince the dudes at PCGS that PL and DMPL shouldn't be exclusive to Morgans........

keoj

dpoole · October 30, 2003 1:44PM

I submitted an 1865 Three Cent Nickel PR66 NGC UCAM and it didn't cross. I sucked it up, cracked it out and sent it raw. Came back PCGS PR66 DCAM! Pop of 4!

homerunhall · October 30, 2003 1:52PM

For the record...

We don't have a finalizer. We have verifiers and they cannot arbitraily change the grade of a coin. If a verifier disagrees with the grade, he can show it to another grader. If they both agree that the grade should be changed then it is. in other words, to get out of PCGS, at least two graders must agree on the grade of a coin.

David Hall

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