<< <i>I am sorry most of you feel this way but I fear that your hatred of me overshadows and clouds your judgement.
With that being said no on has to read my posts. Just as I have the right to post here you each have the right to pass on by any thread of mine you see.
After all it is a message board and I was just posting a message. >>
David... I'm going to say this very slow so hopefully you pick up on it.
So if Donruss/Playoff used old cards they had in stock rather than identical old cards that they bought back from sellers for their "BuyBack" autographs, why do you care? Is there something magical to you about the fact that somebody else hadled the card before? It is still signed by that player, it was still inserted in packs at a certain rate (and/or serial numbered), and it was still originally a X year card.
Now when Topps produces more Gold Refractors than they said they did, we have a very different story. Much of the value of those cards is in their scarcity. If that's not as advertised, then everyone who bases their purchase prices on the false statement has been cheated.
You don't have to read when I post something. Did you not understand that?
When you see me post just pass on by.
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<< <i>I am sorry most of you feel this way but I fear that your hatred of me overshadows and clouds your judgement.
With that being said no on has to read my posts. Just as I have the right to post here you each have the right to pass on by any thread of mine you see.
After all it is a message board and I was just posting a message. >>
David... I'm going to say this very slow so hopefully you pick up on it.
By using backstock like this it does increase the amount of cards that are out there now.
There is one card that was autographed in 1999 and was machine serial numbered of /100.
Now there are 15 more of these same exact cards out there without the machine serial numbering.
Bottom line is that these were presented to the NFL and NFLPA as "BuyBacks". They were marketed and sold as "BuyBacks" and I bough them thinking they were "Buybacks".
What part of plain and simple fraud do you guys not get?
<< <i>So if Donruss/Playoff used old cards they had in stock rather than identical old cards that they bought back from sellers for their "BuyBack" autographs, why do you care? Is there something magical to you about the fact that somebody else hadled the card before? It is still signed by that player, it was still inserted in packs at a certain rate (and/or serial numbered), and it was still originally a X year card.
Now when Topps produces more Gold Refractors than they said they did, we have a very different story. Much of the value of those cards is in their scarcity. If that's not as advertised, then everyone who bases their purchase prices on the false statement has been cheated.
<< <i>You don't have to read when I post something. Did you not understand that?
When you see me post just pass on by. >>
Ask yourself this question. Have you EVER found ANYONE who cared yet? I guess that is your first goal. By the time you find that someone, we all will be great grandparents if we are still living.
Actually yes. I have gotten PM's and emails and before this thread there were a few who contacted Playoff about this.
That is all I can and will say on that for now.
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<< <i>You don't have to read when I post something. Did you not understand that?
When you see me post just pass on by. >>
Ask yourself this question. Have you EVER found ANYONE who cared yet? I guess that is your first goal. By the time you find that someone, we all will be great grandparents if we are still living. >>
<< <i>Now that is the most stupid, ignorant, comment I have ever heard. I hope to god when you grow up you never have a mentally/ physically challenged child. That was just totally uncalled for..... >>
duncangal..Thank You!
My nephew deals with that issue daily and people like Allen who post those stupid things are the reason why i look at these kids and know that if we all were like these kids,the world would be a better place.They are unable to hurt others,they are unable to act out in the way Allen has against people who are whats considered not normal....well Allen if you are considered normal and make comments like that..THANK GOD im not "normal"like you..you just put yourself in the same class as the guy who started this post!Congrats Allen you are now a grad of beckettsucks high.
Anyone who tries to charge up to $30 for shipping 8 cards, and then offers the "fair" price of only $10 is still a big ripoff! I just received a package from my main card dealer for over 200 cards, and the entire shipping charge WITH INSURANCE was still less than $10.
Isn't he the same guy who put a legit eBay auction up and then refused to sell the iten to the legit winner because it wasn't enough money in his view--and even came here and posted that we should support his action of dissing the winner because we all should never complete a legit auction if we don't like the final price--PATHETIC RIPOFF!
I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
I think beckettsucks has a right to be mad at TR. I have seen that they play favorites and are the biggest hipocrites in the industry. As for Gigglin he is a coward. He will explain something to you half-a$$ed and then block you right away so you can't even say something back. Now I am not a "TR Refugee". I had these problems even when I was on TR and I still do. I just care a lot less, because I found a site that I have never had problems with. Sure some of the people on there are nice and have very good intentions. But the majority of them are egotistical and completely braindead. They shut off their brains so the only opinion that they can hear and process are their own. They find it "cool" to talk crap about somebody else's collection and how it sucks compared to theirs. But didn't everybody start off somewhere? They find it cool to make fun of someone for who they collect or what they did in the past. Doesn't everybody like somebody for a different reason? Be it their personality, what they do off the court, where they came from, their past or even their playing ability on the court. I have talked to and am friends with several of TR's members and they feel the same way, some of them even worse. This is my last and final statement about TR and how they affect their members.
I have made over 200+ trades on TR and know practically every trader on the TR football board and have never found any of them to be "braindead". I would love to hear how you are qualified to judge anyone as being such - I don't know you personally but am close to 100% sure that I am more educated than you and I would never think to say that about anyone that I have encountered on TR.
Sure, there are 1 or 2 egotistical traders on TR...just like there are here on CU, Beckett, and I am sure on HI. There are always going to be traders who think their cards are better than yours. That's just the way it is the trading world...if you don't like a person's attitude....you should just find someone else to trade with. At least on TR, you can trade in relative safety without worrying on every trade that you are going to get ripped.
I don't know about any situations you have had on TR or your experiences with Cliff (GigglinRat) so I can't speak to those. I do know of the situation with David (Beckettsucks) and the TR staff was completely right in revoking his membership.
Educated people don't tell people that they're smarter than others. Educated people have enough brains not to flaunt their intellect to others to make themselves look good.
As for stupid people on TR. Its not that they think there cards are better than yours, because no one has ever said that to me and I could care less if they did. And the little kids on TR can't just drop subjects and let them be. Sure there are mostly adults on TR, but those "adults" act like children. VinceFan, AZ_Wildcats and furrymonster are just three to start off. Now, what is your id on TR? I also made nearly 100 trades on TR before they decided to take action on their hipocritical thoughts.
olajuwon? The same olajuwon on HI? The same olajuwon who was kicked off TR for making a fake card and trying to sell it on eBay? The same olajuwon who made up a whole (dumb) story so we'd all believe the card was real? And you're calling people on TR hypocrites?! OMG!!!
Actually you stupid gothic freak, I wasn't kicked off for making a fake card, which I did not do. They kicked me off for shill bidding, which almost every single person has done in some way or another. Be it having someone else bid on their item or registering for another account and bidding on your item with that. And if you deny it then you know its true.
Also, way to put 1 and 1 together with this braniac statement
<< <i>The same olajuwon on HI? >>
Take a minute off from worshipping the devil and listening to Satan music and trying to find more black clothes and stupid things to do with yourself and look to the left!
Lmfao this is a joke post.I love when Allen come on here and calls other ppl ripp offs,when he crys and whines about me not paying he didnt even pay beckett.What a loser!!!!
<< <i>Actually you stupid gothic freak, I wasn't kicked off for making a fake card, which I did not do. They kicked me off for shill bidding, which almost every single person has done in some way or another. Be it having someone else bid on their item or registering for another account and bidding on your item with that. And if you deny it then you know its true.
Also, way to put 1 and 1 together with this braniac statement
<< <i>The same olajuwon on HI? >>
Take a minute off from worshipping the devil and listening to Satan music and trying to find more black clothes and stupid things to do with yourself and look to the left! >>
Hahahaha I love it when you start calling me names like gothic freak. Just shows how much you really know. But hey.. better beware, or I'll pray for Satan to curse you and your whole family. Last time you called me a goth freak (do you even know what you're talking about?) you were kicked off the site.
I hope Ike & Baljit will take a look at this post, and realise what kind of a moderator they assigned on HI. It's a shame though, because it's a great site. Of course every site has it's local dumbass, and you're doing a great job.
BTW..
<< <i>I wasn't kicked off for making a fake card, which I did not do. >>
LMFAO.. want me to look up the story and show everyone?
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<< <i>I am sorry most of you feel this way but I fear that your hatred of me overshadows and clouds your judgement.
With that being said no on has to read my posts. Just as I have the right to post here you each have the right to pass on by any thread of mine you see.
After all it is a message board and I was just posting a message. >>
David... I'm going to say this very slow so hopefully you pick up on it.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... COULDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD .... CAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE .... LESSSSSSSSSSSS.
You are whining to the wrong crowd. Go whine to Donruss or a lawyer. Similar to the Ole Spice commercial, anywhere else is uncivilized.
Now when Topps produces more Gold Refractors than they said they did, we have a very different story. Much of the value of those cards is in their scarcity. If that's not as advertised, then everyone who bases their purchase prices on the false statement has been cheated.
See the difference?
Nick
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When you see me post just pass on by.
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<< <i>I am sorry most of you feel this way but I fear that your hatred of me overshadows and clouds your judgement.
With that being said no on has to read my posts. Just as I have the right to post here you each have the right to pass on by any thread of mine you see.
After all it is a message board and I was just posting a message. >>
David... I'm going to say this very slow so hopefully you pick up on it.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... COULDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD .... CAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE .... LESSSSSSSSSSSS.
You are whining to the wrong crowd. Go whine to Donruss or a lawyer. Similar to the Ole Spice commercial, anywhere else is uncivilized. >>
There is one card that was autographed in 1999 and was machine serial numbered of /100.
Now there are 15 more of these same exact cards out there without the machine serial numbering.
Bottom line is that these were presented to the NFL and NFLPA as "BuyBacks". They were marketed and sold as "BuyBacks" and I bough them thinking they were "Buybacks".
What part of plain and simple fraud do you guys not get?
<< <i>So if Donruss/Playoff used old cards they had in stock rather than identical old cards that they bought back from sellers for their "BuyBack" autographs, why do you care? Is there something magical to you about the fact that somebody else hadled the card before? It is still signed by that player, it was still inserted in packs at a certain rate (and/or serial numbered), and it was still originally a X year card.
Now when Topps produces more Gold Refractors than they said they did, we have a very different story. Much of the value of those cards is in their scarcity. If that's not as advertised, then everyone who bases their purchase prices on the false statement has been cheated.
See the difference?
Nick >>
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<< <i>You don't have to read when I post something. Did you not understand that? >>
But, they also have the choice to read it, and post their opinions, just as you are.
<< <i>You don't have to read when I post something. Did you not understand that?
When you see me post just pass on by.
>>
Ask yourself this question. Have you EVER found ANYONE who cared yet? I guess that is your first goal. By the time you find that someone, we all will be great grandparents if we are still living.
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That is all I can and will say on that for now.
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<< <i>You don't have to read when I post something. Did you not understand that?
When you see me post just pass on by.
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Ask yourself this question. Have you EVER found ANYONE who cared yet? I guess that is your first goal. By the time you find that someone, we all will be great grandparents if we are still living. >>
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All you seem to want to do when you post is cause trouble.
<< <i>someone needs to find his ole friend Raymond >>
I have an idea. How about you not post about it until the legalities are completed.
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It really is that simple.
<< <i>I am just sick of your whining. You keep saying you cannot discuss the pending action.
I have an idea. How about you not post about it until the legalities are completed. >>
<< <i>What whining? How about I post whatever I want, whenever I want and if you don't like it you don't read my posts. >>
And if you dont like his reply, then dont read it.
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<< <i>someone needs to find his ole friend Raymond >>
I'm baaacckkkkkk!!!!!!!!
Hello David. Nice to see that nothing's changed. Kicked off another board?????
<< <i>Now that is the most stupid, ignorant, comment I have ever heard. I hope to god when you grow up you never have a mentally/ physically challenged child. That was just totally uncalled for.....
duncangal..Thank You!
My nephew deals with that issue daily and people like Allen who post those stupid things are the reason why i look at these kids and know that if we all were like these kids,the world would be a better place.They are unable to hurt others,they are unable to act out in the way Allen has against people who are whats considered not normal....well Allen if you are considered normal and make comments like that..THANK GOD im not "normal"like you..you just put yourself in the same class as the
guy who started this post!Congrats Allen you are now a grad of beckettsucks high.
Isn't he the same guy who put a legit eBay auction up and then refused to sell the iten to the legit winner because it wasn't enough money in his view--and even came here and posted that we should support his action of dissing the winner because we all should never complete a legit auction if we don't like the final price--PATHETIC RIPOFF!
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<< <i>someone needs to find his ole friend Raymond >>
I'm baaacckkkkkk!!!!!!!!
Hello David. Nice to see that nothing's changed. Kicked off another board????? >>
Hello Raymond. Happy Holidays
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<< <i>What's the matter, grunt04141966? Not making enough $ selling porn and card on eBay, so you're now complaining again? Thought you were getting out of the business, buddy? >>
Learn how to link...
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I have made over 200+ trades on TR and know practically every trader on the TR football board and have never found any of them to be "braindead". I would love to hear how you are qualified to judge anyone as being such - I don't know you personally but am close to 100% sure that I am more educated than you and I would never think to say that about anyone that I have encountered on TR.
Sure, there are 1 or 2 egotistical traders on TR...just like there are here on CU, Beckett, and I am sure on HI. There are always going to be traders who think their cards are better than yours. That's just the way it is the trading world...if you don't like a person's attitude....you should just find someone else to trade with. At least on TR, you can trade in relative safety without worrying on every trade that you are going to get ripped.
I don't know about any situations you have had on TR or your experiences with Cliff (GigglinRat) so I can't speak to those. I do know of the situation with David (Beckettsucks) and the TR staff was completely right in revoking his membership.
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<< <i>most of TR's staff are stuck up jerks... can we close this post now? i'm tired of people dwelling on the past...
mad cause you never got in
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<< <i>most of TR's staff are stuck up jerks... can we close this post now? i'm tired of people dwelling on the past...
mad cause you never got in
no, i got in after i finished talkin with the dumb-butts, and contacted on of the staff that HAS any brains...
a rare thing over there, you know.
As for stupid people on TR. Its not that they think there cards are better than yours, because no one has ever said that to me and I could care less if they did. And the little kids on TR can't just drop subjects and let them be. Sure there are mostly adults on TR, but those "adults" act like children. VinceFan, AZ_Wildcats and furrymonster are just three to start off. Now, what is your id on TR? I also made nearly 100 trades on TR before they decided to take action on their hipocritical thoughts.
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and kr, i was kiddin ass
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And you're calling people on TR hypocrites?! OMG!!!
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Also, way to put 1 and 1 together with this braniac statement
<< <i>The same olajuwon on HI? >>
Take a minute off from worshipping the devil and listening to Satan music and trying to find more black clothes and stupid things to do with yourself and look to the left!
My Kareem Rush Want/Need List
http://www.freewebs.com/rush21
Collecting Hakeem Olajuwon and Matt Barnes
http://www.freewebs.com/chrisorsburn
Collecting Jason Terry Autos
http://www.freewebs.com/terryauto
My Tradelist
http://groups.msn.com/ChrisPicSite
<< <i>Actually you stupid gothic freak, I wasn't kicked off for making a fake card, which I did not do. They kicked me off for shill bidding, which almost every single person has done in some way or another. Be it having someone else bid on their item or registering for another account and bidding on your item with that. And if you deny it then you know its true.
Also, way to put 1 and 1 together with this braniac statement
<< <i>The same olajuwon on HI? >>
Take a minute off from worshipping the devil and listening to Satan music and trying to find more black clothes and stupid things to do with yourself and look to the left! >>
Hahahaha I love it when you start calling me names like gothic freak. Just shows how much you really know. But hey.. better beware, or I'll pray for Satan to curse you and your whole family.
Last time you called me a goth freak (do you even know what you're talking about?) you were kicked off the site.
I hope Ike & Baljit will take a look at this post, and realise what kind of a moderator they assigned on HI. It's a shame though, because it's a great site. Of course every site has it's local dumbass, and you're doing a great job.
BTW..
<< <i>I wasn't kicked off for making a fake card, which I did not do. >>
LMFAO.. want me to look up the story and show everyone?
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