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guess the grade on a $5 liberty

Just got this today. Any opinions? mike image
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      • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
        MS64
      • StuartStuart Posts: 9,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
        Luster tells me MS65 or 66; contact marks net me down to MS-64 (maybe as high as 65)..

        By the way, it's a very pretty and extremely lustrous $5 Liberty.

        Stuart

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      • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
        I'll guess it's in an old PCGS MS63 holder, but think it's really a 64.

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      • jomjom Posts: 3,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
        What an ugly coin. You should get a clue the next time you attempt to buy gold. image

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      • Nice - 64
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      • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
        Looks like a beautiful 64.
      • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
        64/shot 65
      • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
        It looks like a nice MS-64 to me.

        MS-65 would be "grade-flation" which seems to be going around these days....image
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      • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
        That is one nice coin,beautiful luster.Al
      • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
        My guess in MS 63

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      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
        Thanks everyone! I am going to the dog track in a few minutes so I better reveal the grade now. PCGS MS65 I got it in the Superior sale lot# 2980. mike image
      • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
        When there done chassing that bunny,adopt oneimage they make great pets.Al
      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
        I think I lost enought to put one of those dogs in a retirement home wheb his racing career is overimage. mike
      • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
        LOL Mike,there goes your coin moneyimageAl
      • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
        MS-65 with all those hits on the cheek? I was gonna say 62!
      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
        Robert, do you have any raw 62's you want to sell?image mike
      • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
        I just got done completing an invoice online for the grading of five $5 gold pieces over at NGC, and I'll be mailing it out on Monday. I don't sell them raw though. I just buy em raw image
      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
        Robert, be sure to show us pictures of them when you can. Good luck with your grades. mike image
      • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
        Of course, we have to remember that grading by picture can be a crap shoot. image
      • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
        I confess...the cheek hits caused me to give it a 63...shows what I know. I better stick with the circulated grades.


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      • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
        A 65? I would have said 63 and on a good day 64, but then again, we are looking at a scan and not the coin and I still maintain there is a big difference.

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      • Looks like a just made it 65 I'd call it a pq 64.
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      • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
        In MHO,that's just what I thought it was, going by the scan.I think the luster pulled it to 65.
      • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
        For comparison purposes, here’s a PCGS MS-64 that I popped into my type set last spring. Compare this coin with the one that started this string. This is an example of “grade-flation” IMO. It often in happens in hot markets like this, and it’s a reflection of a lowering of grading standards in general.


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      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
        Nice coin Robert! I almost did not notice the D. image
          Bill your coin is nice also and I would be happy to add it to my collection! As Grip said the luster is a big thing. I have eight MS64's and in person this 65 is clearly a cut above the those. I guess another way to describe it would be to say when I laid them all next to each other on the table this 65 was the coin that stood out- even from a distance. But as others have said it's only a picture and our picture quality is lackingimage. mike
        • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
        • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
          I agree the luster can pull a coin up a grade, maybe, but 65 seems excessive for a coin with hits like that in the cheek. It must be one of those coins you have to see in person. Mike, if you say it's a blazer I'm right there with you, cuz you have some pretty awesome coins and obviously a great eye too! I know coins with great luster tend to photograph with the flaws greatly magnified, too.

          Yes I'll get some images up as soon as the coins come back, maybe a guess the grade or something!
        • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
          Thanks Robertimage In real life the hit's on the cheek are barely noticable and you would not even mention them. Here's the auction picture. mike
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          • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
            I was going to sat 62 or 63 based on the hits on the cheek. The rest is very clean. Maybe it's just the pic. The auction pic looks better. Nice coin.
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