Question about ANACS

ultradmpldollars · July 27, 2003 2:24PM

I have a 1883-CC in an old PCGS rattler type holder graded MS63 DMPL. I think the coin could get a UDM at ANACS, but it looks like there is PVC forming on parts of the reverse. What will ANACS do with this coin? Bodybag it? Or give it a net grade?

KlectorKid · July 27, 2003 2:29PM

Dont listen to me I got stupid coming out my ears.

airplanenut · July 27, 2003 2:30PM

UDM is DMPL, isn't it? If there's PVC, I'd go with the grade guarantee at PCGS, first... that or NCS, then ANACS. ANACS bags for two things- counterfeit and PVC.

Jeremy

ultradmpldollars · July 27, 2003 2:35PM

UDM has to have 12 inches of mirror depth, DMPL only has to have 6 inches of depth in the mirrors.

my3cents · July 27, 2003 3:02PM

if you believe that it is a problem coin - PCGS will not holder it.

ultradmpldollars · July 27, 2003 3:26PM

Would PVC be considered a problem? A problem coin would be cleaning, tooling, dings, dents, etc. wouldn't it? Or am I way off?

kranky · July 27, 2003 10:56PM

You're right - harsh cleaning, tooling, etc. are all grounds for bodybags, but PVC is also.

Placid · July 27, 2003 11:11PM

Anacs will not slab a coin with pvc on it.

Just go to their site its clearly stated.

Soak it in acetone for a while and rinse it in acetone that should get rid of it without harming the coin in any way if it is pvc.

nwcs · July 27, 2003 11:22PM

Send it to NCS and then send it to ANACS

keets · July 27, 2003 11:22PM

hey ultra

tough call. if you think it's PVC, you can always wash that yourself with acetone and not harm the coin. that assumes, i guess, that you would be removing the coin from it's holder and sending it to ANACS. if you sent it to PCGS, the prudent thing would probably be to call them first and discuss things. if it is indeed PVC, i imagine they might remove it and re-holder the coin for you under their guarantee. maybe the place to start is by getting further opinion of what the problem area you spoke of really is. there are no doubt members/dealers /collectors who could help identify what's really going on with the reverse.

in the perfect world, it would be positively identified as PVC, the coin would be conserved by PCGS and re-holdered with the DMPL designation added.

BTW, here's my example of the date. do you think they can fix that planchet flaw??

al h.

sinin1 · July 28, 2003 3:24AM

keep it in the PCGS slab

if you really want ANACS, submit on crossover service with your minimums
MS63 UDM

they will return original slab, or return PCGS if does not make it

do you really think active PVC? PCGS is good at picking that up as well as ANACS

if PVC was on the coin, there probably was a light film restricting reflection

can always go the PCGS guarantee route but could be $30 for them to say they like it where it is

any of these things is going to cost you $30+, is it worth it?

worst case would be crack out, soak in acetone and find you can't get the stuff off you think may be PVC, and you can not get back in a holder as good as it is now (after spending $$ and time)

are your plans to turn this coin, or keep in your collection for another 5+ years?

291fifth · July 28, 2003 3:46AM

Do you really want to start throwing good money after bad? This sounds like a problem coin that is going to be nothing but trouble for anyone who owns it.

As has been said earlier, ANACS will not slab it if the problem is PVC.

Catch22 · July 28, 2003 5:46AM

Neutralize the PVC and resubmit if you think the coin deserves encapsulation. ANACS will "net" grade for the damage left by the PVC, but will holder it if it's no longer active.

On the other hand, you could submit it to ACG with hopes of receiving an MS69 grade.

coppercoins · July 28, 2003 6:04AM

If the PVC is "starting to form" on the coin it hasn't "left damage." Simply take it off with acetone - no brainer. As for holdering, I don't know any answers about that, I don't play that game.

ultradmpldollars · July 28, 2003 7:31AM

Is there anyplace that I could buy this Acetone at?

ksteelheader · July 28, 2003 7:41AM

Is there anyplace that I could buy this Acetone at? ..Any hardware store....Ken

1jester · July 28, 2003 7:48AM

Be sure to buy pure acetone. Although I think that's all a hardware store would carry.

I use a 3 dip acetone rinse, where I soak the coin in one glass jar with about an inch of acetone in it, then with metal tongs, move it to the next jar of acetone, swish it around to rinse it, then move it to the third jar and do the same thing, then take it out and it will dry within about a second. Really effective on PVC.

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