The Lincoln token on the right has a hole, but it is supposed to. It's a campaign token from the 1860 presidential election that is also listed as a Civil War Token. Both of these tokens are very scarce and very popular. If you would like to own one (but not one of the pieces shown here) send me a PM. I've got a nice Lincoln piece that was used during his 1860 campaign.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
You got it right, lordmarcovan. The little circle at the top was to be used as a guide for drilling the hole. Some token collectors perfer the unholed pieces, but to me the hole and a little wear is an indicator that the piece was around during the 1860 election.
The dies for these pieces were sold to another company, and during and probably after the war they were used to restrike many varieties of these tokens mostly for 19th century collectors. Some of them were totally stupid with Liconln on one side and some anti-union slogan on the other. Those tokens are rare, and some collectors pay big bucks to get them, but I would not pay brass farthing for them. To me they are junk.
On the other hand I paid several hundred dollars for the pieces you see here.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Why do you think it is a joke? It is a half dollar with a hole. Don't read anything more into it, otherwise go to www.nationalinquirer.com to entertain yourself.
Gee Shylock, I hope that's an omega counterfeit. Otherwise it's a major league tragedy.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
L.M, I'm sure you've been asked this before but: 1 - How many coins do you have on your vest & hat? 2 - What is the most expensive holey coin you have? 3 - What is the cheapest one? Free ones don't count.
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<< <i>I would love to have a love token with the initials CW or TW. Holes or no holes acceptable, rays are a plus+ >>
Carl, I'll keep an eye open for ya. I also have a bunch of new extras, including several Seated halves, if you're interested. One is an 1853-O A&R that somebody tried to kill (and suceeded, holing it three times!)
Tootawl- since I pioneered the use of fishing swivels on a holey coin garment (see the closeup of Carl's hat), I can take off and add coins, or rearrange them, without sewing. So the number is always in flux.
Maybe I am the "King of Holeys" (or The Holey of Holeys, which is my new custom title whenever admin gets around to it), but it's not an original idea by any means. Plenty of others have done it. I just improved on the idea a little.
1) I honestly have no idea how many there are on the vest, or even the hat, offhand. The stuff in that picture above is not even 1/4 of the front of the vest, and there are four or five gold coins on the hat that aren't in the picture. The back of the vest is the 1800-57 date set of large cents, and those are sewed on rather than mounted with the fishing swivels.
2) The most expensive so far (in terms of the price I paid) is the 1794 Liberty Cap cent, at $120-something. I paid $110 for the 1834 Classic Head $2.50, and $80-something for the ND (1783) Washington Double-Headed cent (admittedly a bit too much). The 1783 Spanish four-reale in the middle of the pic was found by a detecting buddy of mine near St. Augustine, Florida. I myself have dug holey Spanish reales and Seated coins, but keep those in my detector album and not on the vest. I want a Bust dollar, some early thalers, an Athenian Owl tetradrachm, and some early gold, so as time goes on, I'll probably end up spending a little bit of "stupid" money on holed stuff. Crazy, huh?
3) The cheapest, not counting freebies (which many folks generously donate quite often) probably cost me a buck. I constantly try to upgrade, though- I have more holed coins than I have room on the vest! Except for the holes, I look for the same things in a holey that I would in a coin for my "serious" collections: nice eye appeal, high grade, etc.- but I don't have to be too picky. Who cares if a holey coin was cleaned or has a little edge nick or whatever, as long as it looks nice on the vest?
I do not drill any holes myself, though I will occasionally remove a plug. I do not collect mintmade holes. I prefer coins neatly holed at 12:00. All my holeys date before 1900, the oldest being from the 1200's (it's a Bulgarian piece next to the Draped half at lower left- a gift from a Bulgarian forum member!).
I remember a post you made a while back about the fact that you don't make the holes yourself. I admire that.
I also remember a few posts where you said that people have actually got in your face asking why you did such a thing to those coins. Little do they know the true stories of your coins!
PCGS Currency: HOF 2013, Best Low Ball Set 2009-2014, 2016, 2018. Appreciation Award 2015, Best Showcase 2018, Numerous others.
There is one exception, where I cheated and did drill a few holes myself: the vest has five or six buttons, and I wanted to use coins for buttons, too. I had one Indian cent with a hole in the middle, which I made into a button, but the other four or five buttons I made from nasty old Flying Eagle cents and Shield nickels another detecting buddy found. These were crusty critters, believe me. I tumbled 'em in a rock tumbler overnight to polish the crud off, then drilled two small holes in the center of each one to make buttons. Otherwise, I would not have been able to have coin buttons.
Saw a guy here at the hotel one night who was dressed to the nines for dinner. He had on a formal vest with a whole bunch of Type 1 gold dollars as buttons! (The loops were soldered on the back- he let me look at it closely.) Even his cufflinks were gold dollars. Now that's classy!
I've got four gold dollars (a Type 1 and three Type 3's) on my hat, but they'd be too small to use as buttons on my vest. The Shield nickel/Flying Eagle buttons I made look pretty good. It was a good use of some nasty culls that nobody would have loved, otherwise.
Bill beautiful political pieces. PM me so I can see pics of the ones your offering for sale along with prices. The one's your keeping are just way too good looking to pass on. Where the heck do you get all of yours?
Scott Hopkins -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
Yes. Those were made in imitation of the British "spade" guineas, and date from the early 1800's. I have one on my Holey Coin Hat, along with a genuine half-guinea piece.
I noticed you had a 1789, PM me an addy, and i'll send this one to you..... if your interested? >>
The 1789 in my picture in the first post on this thread is the real McCoy, actually- a half-guinea. I don't really need another imitation Spade guinea, but I appreciate the offer. See if coinguy89 wants it.
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BTW, it's a wheatie.
The Lincoln token on the right has a hole, but it is supposed to. It's a campaign token from the 1860 presidential election that is also listed as a Civil War Token. Both of these tokens are very scarce and very popular. If you would like to own one (but not one of the pieces shown here) send me a PM. I've got a nice Lincoln piece that was used during his 1860 campaign.
No way! That's a special protective coating I put on all my coins. It's a mixture of mud, decaying vegetable matter and worm poop.
I don't collect those myself, but I know somebody who might.
Michael Swoveland, aka "Aethelred" on the forums (he mostly hangs out on the Darkside) collects political memorabilia. He's an APIC member.
Here's part of his webpage.
Drop him a PM.
<< <i>I think I posted this one way back. A .22 fits the hole nicely.
BTW, it's a wheatie. >>
.22 WMR? or LR?
The dies for these pieces were sold to another company, and during and probably after the war they were used to restrike many varieties of these tokens mostly for 19th century collectors. Some of them were totally stupid with Liconln on one side and some anti-union slogan on the other. Those tokens are rare, and some collectors pay big bucks to get them, but I would not pay brass farthing for them. To me they are junk.
On the other hand I paid several hundred dollars for the pieces you see here.
What're those? Mint marks?
<< <i>< .22 WMR? or LR? >
What're those? Mint marks? >>
<< <i>I think I posted this one way back. A .22 fits the hole nicely.
BTW, it's a wheatie. >>
Wheaties have never looked better!
The coin is from Heritage's Virtual Gallery, the hole is from ClarkOfKent.
Extremely rare Chinaman Head California Gold Token.
Most surviving examples of this reverse type with various odd obverses are holed.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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I love that chinaman head CA token! Also the nickel patter with hole!
Here is part of my hat:
<< <i>Found in a bank bag of halves.
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Lee Harvey Oswald got that coin how he got it when he was dead we will never know...
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One of many holed Love Tokens that are owned.
Ken
I would love to have a love token with the initials CW or TW. Holes or no holes acceptable, rays are a plus+
I'm sure you've been asked this before but:
1 - How many coins do you have on your vest & hat?
2 - What is the most expensive holey coin you have?
3 - What is the cheapest one? Free ones don't count.
<< <i>I would love to have a love token with the initials CW or TW. Holes or no holes acceptable, rays are a plus+ >>
Carl, I'll keep an eye open for ya. I also have a bunch of new extras, including several Seated halves, if you're interested. One is an 1853-O A&R that somebody tried to kill (and suceeded, holing it three times!)
Tootawl- since I pioneered the use of fishing swivels on a holey coin garment (see the closeup of Carl's hat), I can take off and add coins, or rearrange them, without sewing. So the number is always in flux.
Maybe I am the "King of Holeys" (or The Holey of Holeys, which is my new custom title whenever admin gets around to it), but it's not an original idea by any means. Plenty of others have done it. I just improved on the idea a little.
1) I honestly have no idea how many there are on the vest, or even the hat, offhand. The stuff in that picture above is not even 1/4 of the front of the vest, and there are four or five gold coins on the hat that aren't in the picture. The back of the vest is the 1800-57 date set of large cents, and those are sewed on rather than mounted with the fishing swivels.
2) The most expensive so far (in terms of the price I paid) is the 1794 Liberty Cap cent, at $120-something. I paid $110 for the 1834 Classic Head $2.50, and $80-something for the ND (1783) Washington Double-Headed cent (admittedly a bit too much). The 1783 Spanish four-reale in the middle of the pic was found by a detecting buddy of mine near St. Augustine, Florida. I myself have dug holey Spanish reales and Seated coins, but keep those in my detector album and not on the vest. I want a Bust dollar, some early thalers, an Athenian Owl tetradrachm, and some early gold, so as time goes on, I'll probably end up spending a little bit of "stupid" money on holed stuff. Crazy, huh?
3) The cheapest, not counting freebies (which many folks generously donate quite often) probably cost me a buck. I constantly try to upgrade, though- I have more holed coins than I have room on the vest! Except for the holes, I look for the same things in a holey that I would in a coin for my "serious" collections: nice eye appeal, high grade, etc.- but I don't have to be too picky. Who cares if a holey coin was cleaned or has a little edge nick or whatever, as long as it looks nice on the vest?
I do not drill any holes myself, though I will occasionally remove a plug. I do not collect mintmade holes. I prefer coins neatly holed at 12:00. All my holeys date before 1900, the oldest being from the 1200's (it's a Bulgarian piece next to the Draped half at lower left- a gift from a Bulgarian forum member!).
I also remember a few posts where you said that people have actually got in your face asking why you did such a thing to those coins. Little do they know the true stories of your coins!
There is one exception, where I cheated and did drill a few holes myself: the vest has five or six buttons, and I wanted to use coins for buttons, too. I had one Indian cent with a hole in the middle, which I made into a button, but the other four or five buttons I made from nasty old Flying Eagle cents and Shield nickels another detecting buddy found. These were crusty critters, believe me. I tumbled 'em in a rock tumbler overnight to polish the crud off, then drilled two small holes in the center of each one to make buttons. Otherwise, I would not have been able to have coin buttons.
Saw a guy here at the hotel one night who was dressed to the nines for dinner. He had on a formal vest with a whole bunch of Type 1 gold dollars as buttons! (The loops were soldered on the back- he let me look at it closely.) Even his cufflinks were gold dollars. Now that's classy!
I've got four gold dollars (a Type 1 and three Type 3's) on my hat, but they'd be too small to use as buttons on my vest. The Shield nickel/Flying Eagle buttons I made look pretty good. It was a good use of some nasty culls that nobody would have loved, otherwise.
Hole from a 12 from my coil nailer:
Since it's homemade I guess it's AH for artificial hole.
This is in a reputable slab so it's an original authentic hole:
NCS didn't conserve this Binion Hoard Morgan it but slabbed it as an "interest coin."
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<< <i>I guess it's a gaming token? >>
Yes. Those were made in imitation of the British "spade" guineas, and date from the early 1800's. I have one on my Holey Coin Hat, along with a genuine half-guinea piece.
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I noticed you had a 1789, PM me an addy, and i'll send this one to you..... if your interested?
<< <i>LordM,
I noticed you had a 1789, PM me an addy, and i'll send this one to you..... if your interested? >>
The 1789 in my picture in the first post on this thread is the real McCoy, actually- a half-guinea. I don't really need another imitation Spade guinea, but I appreciate the offer. See if coinguy89 wants it.
Thanks!
How's the new place?
The new place is nice. A longer commute, but worth it.
You already have my one and only!!!
CC
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"If it don't make $"
"It don't make cents""