eBay fraud suspect commits suicide

relayer · May 13, 2003 4:11AM

eBay fraud suspect commits suicide

The guy who ripped me off for $800 took a different route - he went back to Brazil with $100,000 of eBay money

nwcs · May 13, 2003 4:15AM

A sad end for a sad crime

Dog97 · May 13, 2003 4:16AM

If it will help more scammers to do the same I will gladly donate a gun & a box of bullets.

pontiacinf · May 13, 2003 4:17AM

Russ · May 13, 2003 4:25AM

Good riddens to bad rubbish.

Russ, NCNE

wallstreetman · May 13, 2003 4:29AM

Now if they all would just follow suit!

ER · May 13, 2003 4:40AM

Maybe somebody who was scammed finally caught up with this garbage.

byergo · May 13, 2003 4:45AM

Good riddance!

ElectricEye · May 13, 2003 4:49AM

Dog97, if you get any takers, let me know what cartridge and grain weight and where to send the donations to...

ElectricEye · May 13, 2003 5:04AM

aka "The Darwin effect"

jeffnpcb · May 13, 2003 5:05AM

Nothing worse than a dirt nap! Don't know what options he had but eBay is to blame for allowing these crooks for pulling off the schames in the first place! Anyone selling coins or any high priced items should post a surety bond or be insured to open a sellers account. It should be able to curb these problems by starting a program like this on new accounts without history!

Russ · May 13, 2003 5:07AM

<< I hope the above remarks are made in jest even if they are distateful. >>

Nope, not jest. I just wish he'd taken a few more slimebags with him.

Russ, NCNE

ElectricEye · May 13, 2003 5:13AM

Russ, he was found with a pocket full of loose AH 64DCAM's

Tonekiller · May 13, 2003 5:15AM

Regardless of the persons actions he was still a human being. Life is sacred. Think about this thread as if this guy was your brother, father, grandfather, or friend. Forgiveness is a mighty action that far outweighs persecution……even if it was justified.

IMHO,

TBT

Dog97 · May 13, 2003 5:26AM

>>>>>I hope the above remarks are made in jest even >>>>>>
Nope. I doubt he did it in remorse for his actions but instead while crapping his pants in fear of what was going to happen to him in prison. What a coward.
Being forgiven by me is of little relevance because the Lord is who you must ask for forgiveness.

ElectricEye · May 13, 2003 5:30AM

No pity here, no hate either. Thiefs are predators in their own class but aren't the ones that deserve the most attention. Rip off a bank, go to jail forever, eviscerate a person, see ya in a few years. IMHO, I don't think many people really wish this guy dead, but do see some sort of karmic retribution as a fitting end.

If it was my eldest brother, I'd be sad but the world would definitely be a safer place...

Russ · May 13, 2003 5:34AM

<< Think about this thread as if this guy was your brother, father, grandfather, or friend. >>

I would say the same thing. A slimeball is a slimeball, doesn't matter if they happen to be a relative.

Russ, NCNE

UncleJoe · May 13, 2003 5:49AM

I agree, this guy should not be slandered.

He did the honorable thing.

And while we are discussing this, please do not try to use eBay to excuse this guy's behavior.

While I might agree that eBay might think about putting more safeguards in place to protect the innocent, the individual chooses to do right or wrong.

We are all aware of the pitfalls of eBay and you must act accordingly.

Joe.

g097103 · May 13, 2003 5:54AM

Buy the bullet, rent the gun.

DCAMFranklin · May 13, 2003 6:18AM

Threads such as this, reveal a great deal about the personalities of Members here.

Some of these statements are extremely distasteful and show a complete lack of compassion for our fellow man.

Conder101 · May 13, 2003 7:12AM

<< Life is sacred >>

I've never understood that viewpoint. It makes more sense coming from a vegitarian but even they often destroy life in order to perpetuate their own.

JOHNandBEA · May 13, 2003 7:17AM

This is a very sad ending...............

John

matteproof · May 13, 2003 7:18AM

A very sad story. I feel sorrowful for this man and his family. Desperation can lead a man to do very desperate things. Prayer and forgiveness, rather than hostility, might have brought this man to a happier ending. Some of you have expressed anger. Why? What's the point in casting spurn on top of this man's tragedy? matteproof

CLASSICS · May 13, 2003 7:29AM

<< Regardless of the persons actions he was still a human being. Life is sacred. Think about this thread as if this guy was your brother, father, grandfather, or friend. Forgiveness is a mighty action that far outweighs persecution……even if it was justified.

IMHO,

TBT >>

...................yes he is still a human being, and life is a wonderful gift........it is also to bad he had to steal and be a thief, wonder how many people he ripped off.......you know the people who earned thier money the honest way........maybe from a mother who had to go to work to feed her children, or someone elderly who just had a few bucks to send on a hobby.....those are the people i feel sorry for.......this person? sad for him in one way, but he wont be able to live off other folks who are honest.

ER · May 13, 2003 7:37AM

"Prayer and forgiveness,....., might have brought this man to a happier ending."
Huh?
He decided to take the easy way out, man, rather than facing jail time and all the really nasty stuffs in there. How do you know he is not happier now, wherever he is.
Just remember, he, his wife, and countless others, are out there prEying on you and me.
How many lives have they affected and/or cut short? Think of the victims.

joeyuk · May 13, 2003 7:40AM

Current desperate circumstances could have led him to theese actions, not just a lifestyle choice. I feel everyone has something useful to contribute and if I could wave a magic wand he would be punished,rehabilitated and forced to make restitution.

Russ · May 13, 2003 7:48AM

<< I feel sorrowful for this man and his family. >>

I'll reserve my sympathy for the victims, not the perp.

<< Current desperate circumstances could have led him to theese actions >>

Yeah, no doubt he had always led an exemplary life prior to this and then suddenly woke up one day and decided to start ripping people off. Not eBay's fault, though, his mommy probably potty-trained him backwards.

Russ, NCNE

matteproof · May 13, 2003 7:55AM

<< "Prayer and forgiveness,....., might have brought this man to a happier ending."
Huh?
He decided to take the easy way out, man, rather than facing jail time and all the really nasty stuffs in there. How do you know he is not happier now, wherever he is.
.... >>

Hi ER. Thank you for the comments. Mockery of a man's suicide is simply wrong. No one knows the "reasons" why a man would do such a desperate thing. Lack of compassion and harsh words of disdain could just as easily pushed this man over the edge as anything else. If someone has lost money, they have recourse at law. Mocking a man's tragedy will not have the effect of getting a refund. matteproof

ER · May 13, 2003 8:03AM

matteproof,
We're gonna have to agree that I respect your opinion, and you respect mine ( I hope ).
I still like you, and everyone here who are not scammers. Let's just leave it at that.

joeyuk · May 13, 2003 8:09AM

Russ , I never thought he led an exemplery life , noe should you assume he was always a predator . People make their own choices and should be held accountable for their actions. I am only sorry he felt he had noware to turn and felt this was his way out. He was married. What if he had kids ? there would be manny more concequences for his actions.
Joe

matteproof · May 13, 2003 8:11AM

<< matteproof,
We're gonna have to agree that I respect your opinion, and you respect mine ( I hope ).
I still like you, and everyone here who are not scammers. Let's just leave it at that. >>

Hi ER. Thank you again for the comments and for your kind words also ER. I also respect your opinion, and I like you too.

matteproof

nwcs · May 13, 2003 8:22AM

<< Threads such as this, reveal a great deal about the personalities of Members here.

Some of these statements are extremely distasteful and show a complete lack of compassion for our fellow man. >>

DCAM, in this I totally agree with you.

Neil

fishcooker · May 13, 2003 8:23AM

I bet this person did not know the punishment (slight) that would be received - if found guilty.

I would rather see them working to repay their debts. And that work should be stringent enough to deter others from crime.

Let them spend each summer, for the next 10 years, mowing lawns in some place like Houston, Atlanta, or Phoenix. Winters could be shoveling snow in Buffalo.

dweeberlord · May 13, 2003 8:24AM

"And forgive me my sins, as i forgive those who have sinned against me..." It's a two-way street.

Russ · May 13, 2003 8:35AM

I'm curious. When somebody expresses sympathy and understanding for a lowlife scumbag criminal, do they really feel that way? Or do they say that because they think they're supposed to?

Russ, NCNE

nwcs · May 13, 2003 8:41AM

Russ, I think it is more accurate to say for myself that I find the incident regrettable and sad. And sometimes it is not necessarily the peson, but the situation. And I find the thought of advocating suicide extremely distasteful.

Russ · May 13, 2003 8:44AM

I think that advocating suicide for a normal, law-abiding person would be distasteful. For a criminal, it's more like gene pool cleansing.

Russ, NCNE

APA1709 · May 13, 2003 8:53AM

I am surprised to read some of the posts in this thread. I didn't know so many mean spirited people existed here. There is a huge difference in how we should feel (and be angry) between a person who is a crook and a person who commits suicide. The crook, of course he deserves being held accountable for his actions, but a suicide, how sad, unnecessary and tragic. I am in opinion with those people like tonekiller and matteproof who see the true tragedy and sadness in suicide, no matter what the reasons. As for people who feel like Russ, I vehemently disagree with your remarks. Since we are all allowed to post our comments, mine is....in the end (and the end will come for us all), we are all just children of God. Of course those who feel differently are certainly entitled to their comments.

APA1709 · May 13, 2003 8:55AM

I think that advocating suicide for a normal, law-abiding person would be distasteful. For a criminal, it's more like gene pool cleansing.

Gene pool cleansing.....hey, that's not an original idea Russ.....didn't some guy named Adolf Hitler share the same philosophies? You're really showing little compassion and class Russ.....don't let any of that ugliness drip onto your AH Kennedy's....they'd tone ugly for sure.

Coppernicus · May 13, 2003 9:03AM

Celebrating the death of an obviously troubled soul cannot be defended. I support the death penalty, that does not mean that I think all criminals should die.

I refer you to John Dunne's "No Man is an Island."

Although the subject of this thread was a dishonorable person, may he rest in peace.

Mike

Russ · May 13, 2003 9:08AM

<< didn't some guy named Adolf Hitler share the same philosophies? You're really showing little compassion and class Russ.... >>

Yeah, not wringing my hands and gnashing my teeth over the death of a scumbag who ripped people off for over $100 grand is just like Hitler murdering innocent human beings.

As for my "compassion and class" that went away after about the fifth time I was robbed, vandalized or burglarized by the type of subhuman excrement you're defending.

Russ, NCNE

JOHNandBEA · May 13, 2003 9:12AM

Russ: I personally take people for their word...........unless their actions prove otherwise

John

abuell · May 13, 2003 9:23AM

I like the bottom of the AP story where it says, "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed." Right below it is a link that says, "Email this story."

wallstreetman · May 13, 2003 10:06AM

What if he had kids ?

Maybe theyll end up with a better role model!

Russ · May 13, 2003 10:47AM

<< Russ with all your hateful comments I suppose you think your pure enough to throw the first stone. >>

My only hateful comments have been directed at a criminal. I'm not the one who just called somebody a Nazi because they don't ascribe to the same philosophy as they. Nope, that was one of you "compassionate" people.

<< I truly cant understand how one person can harbor so much ill will. >>

I harbor no ill will at all. I just choose not to feel sorry for a criminal who saved the taxpayers a bunch of money.

Russ, NCNE

ldhair · May 13, 2003 10:50AM

I'll save my compassion for the good guys that decide to do themself.

I won't preach but it's wrong for anyone to end it this way.

Only one has that right.

joejeweler · May 13, 2003 11:01AM

Yep.....and the good book says that he who has died, has paid for all his sins! Though i'd much rather see this guy tried, convicted......and ORDERED TO PAY RESTITUTION...........that seldom happens anymore.

Today the crooks rob, get probation or a mild slap on the wrist with a 90 day sentence........and rarely have to pay a dime back! Really sucks for the victoms........

In this case..............PAID IN FULL!

By the way.........can you imagine if organized crime ran ebay, and had a "Safe Harbor" with some real clout? Something like this might just have been made to "look" like a suicide....... to set an example!

It sure brought the wife home in a hurry......remember she turned herself in over the weekend. I surmise ebay might be a safer place.....

<< Regardless of the persons actions he was still a human being. Life is sacred. Think about this thread as if this guy was your brother, father, grandfather, or friend. Forgiveness is a mighty action that far outweighs persecution……even if it was justified.

IMHO,

TBT >>

dbldie55 · May 13, 2003 11:17AM

This thread pretty much sums up where we are in America today. I have never felt for anyone who wanted to end it all, although I usually feel for those that it effects. I do feel my money (tax dollars) would be much better served just giving it to those who lost than to waste it trying to rehabilitate those that stole it.

mr1931S · May 13, 2003 11:26AM

Any death is a tragedy. If it is not, then life itself is a tragedy.

joejeweler · May 13, 2003 11:27AM

Especially if it's "aborted"! Saddest of all.........spoken from a dad.

<< Any death is a tragedy. If it is not, then life itself is a tragedy. >>

Bustman · May 13, 2003 11:31AM

<< Especially if it's "aborted"! Saddest of all.........spoken from a dad.

<< Any death is a tragedy. If it is not, then life itself is a tragedy. >>

>>

Oh boy, this could really get ugly now!

eBay fraud suspect commits suicide

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