1961 Double Die Reverse Franklin Proof.... How much is enough?????

StEligius

I have several 1961 coins with doubling on the reverse of them. Some are mostly on EPU with others on the outer lettering as well. One has it on the eagle but not like on the EPU none show doubling on the letters of the bell or the bell itself. I guess the question in all this is how much does it take and where does it need to be to make a DDR for PCGS? Also does the DDR take away from the overall grade of the coin as the strike is not as stong on the rear due in part to the doubling? Any help on this would be appreciated.

Thank You.....

LucyBop

Be Bop A Lula!!!

They are just Frankies... who needs or wants em?

Wingsrule

My understanding is the version that shows doubling on 'E Pluribus Unum' is the most widely recognized. I also believe it is the only version acknowledged by PCGS and they will denote it on the holder.

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ksteelheader

My understanding is that PCGS pretty much goes by what can be found in the Redbook.....Ken

koynekwest

Only PR 5-R-I is slabbed. There are several minor Class II Proof doubled dies of little or no significance. The strike is not diminished in any way by the multiple hubbings; however, die state plays a much bigger role with doubled dies than on other coins, especially on business strikes. There is no doubling on the bell because the pivot point on Class I doubled dies is somewhere near the center and show best on the perhipheral design elements. When you see the "Big One," there's no mistaking it.

LucyBop

<< <i>When you see the "Big One," there's no mistaking it. >>



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cladking

Welcome aboard alula!

StEligius

So far alot of information gathered here I am still not up on error coins yet but am learning! The best/worst DDR I have has EPU trippled in spots both dots almost all of the outer lettering is doubled and the one wing of the eagle is heavy the other is light both A's in america are pounded real good. Nothing on the bell as I stated before. I think I just bite the bullet and submit it and see what happens if it makes it then I try the next and so on till I have either a bunch of DDR coins or not.
Thank You all for the information it has cleared up alot of questions for me.............

FatMan

Here's a big fat welcome to ya!

joejeweler

Lucy....that's sounding a bit X-rated!



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<< <i>When you see the "Big One," there's no mistaking it. >>



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cladking

<< <i> I think I just bite the bullet and submit it and see what happens if it makes it then I try the next and so on till I have either a bunch of DDR coins or not.
Thank You all for the information it has cleared up alot of questions for me............. >>



Not all grading companies will authenticate all varieties. Be sure the one you send it to will attribute it.

StEligius

I am fairly sure at least 2 will go PCGS. I have scoured the CONECA site and other referances that have been messaged to me. SO now the next question what about DDO 1961? Will PCGS grade one of those? Or should I consider a diffrent grading service? FYI Saint Eligius is the patron saint of coin collectors..... Thanks for all the help so far.

ksteelheader

Velcomin..........Ken

Gilbert

PCGS DOES attribute the '61 Pr DDO; coin number 6689.

Per, "The Complete Guide to Franklin Half Dollars" Vol II, ... doubling on the reverse is quite pronounced, and easily recognized with the naked eye. "EPU" are the key areas to focus on. In the small image provided it looks like the legend also shows significantly aplit serifs.