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Coin is graded AU55. There is decent luster that the scan does not show. Opinions?
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a nice coin to me. I certainly don't see much wear on it.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks fine (fine= as graded AU-55 as opposed to Fine) to me. I don't see any problems.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,332 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks fine to me.

    Bill, it's WAY better than fine. image

    Actually, the coin looks unc in the scan. In person, who knows?
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  • What economic problem happened to start the production of the 3 cent piece?? image
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  • MadMonkMadMonk Posts: 3,743
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  • dldallendldallen Posts: 359 ✭✭
    Brian,

    Looks great - who graded it AU55? You, seller, 3rd Party? I can't see any wear. Dave
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    It's PCGS AU55. After seeing it in person I think it was undergraded.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Plus they are also to be used to redeem Spanish milled dollars, which were still legal tender in 1851.

    Some people had found that they could bring in badly worn Spanish Milled Dollars for redemption and get back more silver than they had paid in. image To make the practice less attractive the mint started to redeem those coins in silver three cent pieces, which were made of .750 fine silver instead of the standard .900 silver. The net result was that you got back a large number of small debased coins for your Spanish dollars, which made the whole process less attractive.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • It looks nice to me, but I haven't seen many of these. Where is the wear? I'd like to know what to look for...
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The wear points are on the high points of the star and the "III" on the reverse. You would need to look at this coin in person with a 10X to see it because the coin is uniformly toned. There is a chance that it is Mint State. You can't tell for sure on this scan or perhaps any scan.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    ANA guide says wear will first appear on the ridges of the star on the obverse, and on top of the III, the large curl at the top of the cresent moon, and on the top of the diamond in the moon. The luster appears to carry across all those high spots. The diamond is a bit less than full, but it looks like a slightly weak strike caused that not wear.
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  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Since the coin has grey toning dificult to tell from scan if circulated but I have no trouble with it at the grade stated.

    Re: the origens of the 3CS.
    " Bimetallism began to crumble in 1849 when an unprecidented flow of gold from California began to affect the world bullion markets. By 1850 the effect of all this gold was violent. Early in 1851 , the market ratio fell to 15.41:1 . The silver in two half dollars was worth 1.035 in gold, and the profit in exportation became significant. The appearance in 1849 of the $1 gold piece helped the small change situation but but hastened the disappearance of silver. In 1851 silver coins rapidly disappeared.
    To help produce small change , congress authorized a three sent piece of 0.75% silver and 0.25% copper on March3,1851. It was legal tender for for payments up to 30C. It is important as this was the first US coin to be a subsidiary, having a metal value far below its face valkue; it was worth 86% of face." Rorak;The Gobrecht Journal Vol43;1989..

    If you are interested in the rest of the story read the article in Volume #3 of the bound Journals or I might be convinced to tell the rest of the tale.
    Trime

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