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What do you think about Rick Snow's Photoseal?

What do you think about Rick Snow's Photoseal?

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  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178
    the little bit I know about it I would say that for the series he specializes in that it is a good thing. Just about anyone who knows Flying Eagles or Indians knows the name Rick Snow. His name is known as being the expert on those series.

    my .02
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    It's another great eye (that specializes in FE/IHC's) giving a coin his seal of approval. By the way he will not photo-seal just any PCGS/NGC/ICG coin that is submitted.
  • MadMonkMadMonk Posts: 3,743
    I think it's an added bonus when a true expert gives his "seal" of approval.
    When I first started in the hobby, it took me a while to realize what a good, to better, to much better example of a particular coin should look like. So, if I would have stumbled on this type of thing 25 years ago, I probably would have gone through less dogs at the time.
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  • i agree with that ^
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Photo-seal is a brilliant idea. It's amazing that nobody else has followed Rick's lead.
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    I asked Rick about his Photoseal at a coin show. He stated quite simply that coins with the Eagle Eye were coins he would like to have back in his collection some day. There are probably a few others who have the reputation that could do something similar with other denominations.
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  • Frankly, I would feel better about it if Rick Snow were not a coin dealer specializing in selling Flying Eagle and Indian cents.
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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Coinnut1799 can you explain?? That, at least to me, makes no sense. That is the exact reason that he should be doing it IMO.
  • Photosealing enables Rick to make a sight unseen market as he generally will pay 75% of his pinksheet price to repurchase a photosealed IHC or FE.

    Like all graded coins some photosealed coins are nicer than other photosealed coins. Rick has also been known to unphotoseal a coin when its appearance has deteriorated over time.


  • << <i>That, at least to me, makes no sense. >>



    I believe Coinnut1799 was making the point there is the potential for a conflict of interest when someone "grades" and sells their own coins. Yes, he will photoseal other coins also, according to his web site. I'm not saying it's a problem with snow (unlike the Hagers and their cronies), just that it could been seen that way.image

    His post makes sense. Obviously, Snow's reputation tends to neutralize any negative perception - not the case with some others.
  • Richard;
    Thank you for your comments. I was not trying to be at all critical of Rick Snow. I have bought coins from him and sold a coin to him. He takes the time to speak with customers at shows, and is extremely helpful and professional. On top of all that, he always has some incredible coins in his showcase.image
    However, if a coin warrants a premium if it has the Eagle Eye seal of approval, and he is both the arbiter and seller, it has to make you wonder about a potential conflict. In my profession the appearance of a conflict often carries as much weight as an actual conflict.
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  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433
    I look at it more like an expert in this field agrees with the grade and designation assigned to this particular coin, which has been encapsulated by a third party grading service. For the casual collector looking to fill a void in a type set, but doesn't have the time, to do all the necessary research involved with distinguishing all the different grading nuances a series can have, it's a safety blanket against a blatantly overgraded coin in someones holder (that can happen image)
    In the shameless plug dept., I have a Photoseal IHC on Ebay as we type...........image
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  • Rick has also been known to unphotoseal a coin when its appearance has deteriorated over time.

    Sorry but this comment does not give me confidence in the Photoseal concept.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    I look at it Like Darrin does and didn't even think about the possibility of conflict or the appearance of such.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rick is more than happy to Photoseal your coin for a very nominal fee. It's not just HIS coins that are photosealed. I don't know the percentages but a large number of PS coins were not originally his, nor have they ever been.
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  • Yet another conflict of interest.

    When will people understand you can't be a judge and a jury too?

    The temptions are too great I don't care what the reputation.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    i like the rick snow photoseal concept

    i like the ngc star designation just as much................ even better

    but with all coins buy the coin not the holder

    rick snow photo seal and ngc star is a great in fact superb concept if the coin is all there sight seen in person in my minds eye usually it is!

    sincerely michael
  • NumisEdNumisEd Posts: 1,336
    Ha. More like Photo-Steal.

    You guys are just plain suckers, aren't you? Why not just learn to grade your own damn coins and stop shoveling money over to the purported "experts"? How many coins would YOU have in your collection right now if you had not spent $3000 last year in plastic?
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    A few reasons why I like it for IHs:

    1) It's a conditionally challenged series where even some of the high grades are easily identified by their problems. As a result there's a wide range of quality within PCGS & NGC assigned grades, and inconsistant color designation waters it down even more.

    2) He's not grading and slabbing, he's simply screening those that already are. A second opinion from someone who sees lots of these coins is a nice starting point for those who don't.

    3) If you check his site at any given time you'll find IHs for sale that aren't photosealed {PS}. Some are very desirable coins but are iffy at the assigned grade, and are priced accordingly. He doesn't just slap a PS on every coin he feels is marketable.

    Besides making his own sight unseen buying easier, is it a marketing tool? Of course, but one that could easily backfire if abused. Prices realized, and the fact most dealers/auction houses mention the seal in their coin copy, suggest it's been a plus to the hobby. It differs from the NGC star in that it doesn't denote special eye appeal, just accurate grade & color in a series filled with dogs.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rick Snow's Photoseal is a form of the PQ concept that has caught on to an extent. I've handed a few of these coins, and all of them were nice. The only problem is as dealer is that you have to buy them at the right price to make any money.
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