News Flash: ANA releases decision on ACG's complaint against Barry Stuppler
K6AZ
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The ANA found that the "ANA can not condone ASA Accugrade grading
standards and believes that those standards can mislead the end
consumer with regard to the value of the numismatic item being
purchased". And that the Board "recognizes based upon the
information provided at the hearing as well as the opinions expressed
by many of the witnesses called, that a significantly larger percentage
of grading errors appear to be made by ASA Accugrade then by other
grading services"
The Board of Governors also stated: "We recognize and applaud Barry Stuppler's
passion for consumer protection and his efforts to insure that the numismatic
industry, including coin grading, does not take advantage of unknowledgeable
consumers." However, since the ANA found that he did not violate the Member
and Dealer Code of Ethics, he was very surprisesd that the ANA Board of
Governors did find that he violated the ANA Board Member Code of Ethics,
Section 13:
"A Board member shall maintain the highest standard of personal
conduct: promote and encourage the highest level of ethics within
the numismatic profession: and maintain loyalty to the Association"
standards and believes that those standards can mislead the end
consumer with regard to the value of the numismatic item being
purchased". And that the Board "recognizes based upon the
information provided at the hearing as well as the opinions expressed
by many of the witnesses called, that a significantly larger percentage
of grading errors appear to be made by ASA Accugrade then by other
grading services"
The Board of Governors also stated: "We recognize and applaud Barry Stuppler's
passion for consumer protection and his efforts to insure that the numismatic
industry, including coin grading, does not take advantage of unknowledgeable
consumers." However, since the ANA found that he did not violate the Member
and Dealer Code of Ethics, he was very surprisesd that the ANA Board of
Governors did find that he violated the ANA Board Member Code of Ethics,
Section 13:
"A Board member shall maintain the highest standard of personal
conduct: promote and encourage the highest level of ethics within
the numismatic profession: and maintain loyalty to the Association"
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I hope this gets prominent and ongoing play in ANA publications and elsewhere.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
Thanks for the info. Was he sanctioned in any way for the "violation?"
z
If we send the ANA decision to ACG, will it qualify for the $100 reward?
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z
and Dealer Code of Ethics, he was very surprisesd that the ANA Board of
Governors did find that he violated the ANA Board Member Code of Ethics,
Section 13:
"A Board member shall maintain the highest standard of personal
conduct: promote and encourage the highest level of ethics within
the numismatic profession: and maintain loyalty to the Association"
That being the case, I guess every single board member is also guilty. Why? If they can't condone ACG practices, then why the he!! do they allow their membership. That hardly seems to "promote and encourage the highest level of ethics ..."
BTW, did they NOT expel Hager? If not, they remain in violation of that very same Section!
Cheers !.........Ken
Russ, NCNE
If I didn't mention it before, this statement on ACG's grading really blew me away, and is much more than I had hoped for. I am very impressed that the Board did the right thing in my opinion, and now I don't regret rejoining the ANA before they took a stand.
The ANA Board of
Governors did find that he violated the ANA Board Member Code of Ethics,
Section 13:
"A Board member shall maintain the highest standard of personal
conduct: promote and encourage the highest level of ethics within
the numismatic profession: and maintain loyalty to the Association"
Is this decision up on your site yet?
ARe the HAger's going to ask for their $3000 back now?
<< <i>K6AZ
Is this decision up on your site yet?
Not yet, right now I am working on some of the hearing documents. These are incredible, just wait until you see them!
PLease post more items as you get time!!
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
and Dealer Code of Ethics, he was very surprisesd that the ANA Board of
Governors did find that he violated the ANA Board Member Code of Ethics,
Section 13:
"A Board member shall maintain the highest standard of personal
conduct: promote and encourage the highest level of ethics within
the numismatic profession: and maintain loyalty to the Association"
So trying to help prevent newbies from buying CLEARLY overgraded problem coins is NOT considered ethical?? Or is it not being loyal to the ANA?? Maybe it is just me but I don't understand that one.
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2: Shut up and
3: Play Stupid
<< <i>So trying to help prevent newbies from buying CLEARLY overgraded problem coins is NOT considered ethical?? Or is it not being loyal to the ANA?? Maybe it is just me but I don't understand that one. >>
It's bringing an issue to the public that the ANA board has been trying to avoid for so long.
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Why do you think they brought the complaint to the ANA?
Mark
OK now I understand, I wonder if we will see another picture of the ANA accepting a check from ACG this year like we did last year??
I have a hunch that arrogance played a major role in their decision to file the complaint against Stuppler. Either that, or they're just profoundly stupid.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>The Board of Governors also stated: "We recognize and applaud Barry Stuppler's passion for consumer protection and his efforts to insure that the numismatic industry, including coin grading, does not take advantage of unknowledgeable consumers." However, since the ANA found that he did not violate the Memberand Dealer Code of Ethics, he was very surprisesd that the ANA Board of Governors did find that he violated the ANA Board Member Code of Ethics, Section 13:
"A Board member shall maintain the highest standard of personal conduct: promote and encourage the highest level of ethics within the numismatic profession: and maintain loyalty to the Association." >>
So telling the truth and exposing the lie is not "the highest level of ethics" for ANA board members? And ignoring a known fraud is??? Sounds like Clintonian ethics to me. At the very least, they should have specified the particular "transgressions" so that Barry and all future ANA board members will know what practices they should avoid while "passionately" defending unknowledgeable consumers.
I would like to encourage all our members who sell coins to post a bold note on their websites and ebay auctions something to the effect that "In light of the recent pronouncement by the board of directors of the American Numismatic Association, we will not sell or buy coins in ACG holders." Granted that few, if any, members here do ... but it's a great way to get the point across to those unknowledgeable buyers (especially on eBay, since I doubt that they can interfere with it). Of course, there's a great risk involved -- no, not getting sued by the Hagers, but being found "ethically deficient" by the ANA board.
Come on over ... to The Dark Side!
The only bad news is that we will have to hear her rant and spew garbage in Coin World for the next
five issues!
Brian.
Joe
Jeremy
Come on over ... to The Dark Side!
Its all bass akwards.
As long as AGC is scratching the ANAs back,would you expect anything more than a paultry slap on the wrist?
Its corruption rearing its ugly head.
The Hagers should be expelled by the ANA
The 3000 dollar contribution should be returned
Civil charges should be filed against ACG by the ANA or Mr Stuppler
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