Would PCGS slab or bag this? (rest of story added)
Barry
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And how would you grade it?
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Barry
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And how would you grade it?
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Send it to ANACS.
Looking for Nationals, Large VF to AU type, 1928 Gold, and WWII Emergency notes. Also a few nice Buffalo Nickels and Morgan Dollars.
Monty...
The coin actually looks better than the pic. I purposely flattened detail with some Photoshop finagling, so there would be no question that it was cleaned. The coin is obviously cleaned, but has EF-40 detail.
Here's the bottom line:
Here's a coin, which if it weren't for the pedigree, never would have been slabbed by PCGS (even though it's one of the key dates). How do they justify it? By knocking it down in grade a bit. Doesn't seem right, does it?
Russ, NCNE
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First, let me say that your big eye-ball freaks me out.
Second, just out of curiousity, I looked up the coin in the Eliasberg catalog and heres what the B&M cataloger said back in 1996:
VF-20. Light gray toning. Old scratches in the field are mostly hidden by toning. Rare in all grades.
Funny, I don't see any toning in your photo, but I note that the plate photo in 1996 looks to be a fairly darkly toned coin. I'd almost guess the coin was cleaned since 1996, though I can't believe someone would think that was a good idea.
Based on what you posted, you're suggesting that PCGS knew the pedigree when determining the grade. If thats true, maybe the grader looked it up in the catalog, saw what it was called back then and based his determination partly on that. Or maybe not.
Good post.
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Of course the silver camp may feel differently, or even the copper camp, or my wife...
mike
W.C. Fields
This coin has been (over)dipped. No toning at all. So your saying the coin was sold raw, then dipped, then slabbed by PCGS with the pedigree? Interesting... I don't think the grader necessarily looked it up in the catalog, but must have known the pedigree, otherwise it would have been body bagged.
Regarding the eyeball, when I signed up for the forum, that icon was already up in the list. I'm an ophthalmologist, so I thought it was the perfect choice
How do you suppose the pedigree was verified after the coin went from "VF-20 w/light gray toning" to what it is now?
BTW......the "dipper" better stay away from my Barber half! (below) He might try to improve it also............NOT!
Joe T
<< <i>Seems to be a lull in responses, so here's the rest of the story...
The coin actually looks better than the pic. I purposely flattened detail with some Photoshop finagling, so there would be no question that it was cleaned. The coin is obviously cleaned, but has EF-40 detail.
Here's the bottom line:
Here's a coin, which if it weren't for the pedigree, never would have been slabbed by PCGS (even though it's one of the key dates). How do they justify it? By knocking it down in grade a bit. Doesn't seem right, does it? >>
Once again resides with Legend, the original purchaser "raw" at live Eliasberg auction. Laura and i "love" the same lady!
I can't even get them to grade a bust half correctly.
Yes, there are those who will pay more for the pedigree, but why is it necessary to overgrade the coin so that it can realize a higher price? And why is it that a coin that would normally not be graded get graded because of who owned it years ago?
Also, I am certain that in many cases, PCGS and NGC knew the pedigrees of the coins.
If I sent it in I am positive it would be returned in a body bag.
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