Another newbie on the road to getting ripped-off!!!!

danglen

Can you imagine paying this for a silver round?

Ripoff

rd5425

wow, this auction is very misleading, the bidders think this is an actual grant commemorative issued by the us mint.

ms71

As long as somebody will buy this crap, there will be somebody there to take the money.

rainbowroosie

Do you think a guy with "0" feedback and sunglasses is a real buyer???

dbldie55

I see nothing wrong with this listing. It clearly states it is a 1 oz. silver round. Nothing is hidden or in "small print", in fact the title and "BIG BOLD" print state the fact.

Why is this a ripoff (other than the opening bid was double silver)?

danglen

I think it might be. Usually, the protector of newbies and scourge of scam artists goes by names like "scumthumper". I hope it's him or her in a new disguise

dbldi55,

Did you read the item description? Sure makes it sound like a piece minted in 1922.

TomB

I would hope and expect that anyone who would know what a Grant commem was would have the presence of mind to know this is not one.

Outhaul

This guy also had an auction running titled "1915-S Panama Pacific Commemorative NR". I looked at it and found it was a silver round. I e-mailed the seller (trade-on-line) and simply said:

Gee, another seller with a deceptive auction title.

His reply:

Go f**k yourself.

My reply to that:

Well, not only have we established that you're a scumbag, but also that you're socially retarded as well.

No reply.

First class scumbag seller.

Cheers,

Bob

TomB

That was funny, Bob!

dbldie55

Outhaul, can you link to that auction? Everyone of this sellers lots I looked at clearly state it is a silver round. Nothing wrong, immoral or deceiving in the listings. Some people take this "save the world" too far. It is things like this that Ebay have their "auction interference" rules for.

danglen, So what if it looks like it was minted in 1922. It is a silver round and clearly defined as such. Should a silver round be worth more if it was pressed well in the past?

ClausUrch

IMHO, the Seller clearly states 1 oz. in bold in the heading, making it a good auction.

Gilbert

I wholeheartedly agree with BOTH of TomB's comments, but I am a still uncomfortable with the description:



1922 Grant Memorial
Commemorative
1 Troy Ounce
This is a 1922 Grant Memorial Silver Commemorative in cameo proof-like condition. This is 1 Troy Silver Ounce, .999 Pure Siver Ounce Individualy numbered. There were 6,741 of these silver rounds mited. This is a beautiful coin please take a look. This coin was part of my father's collection. We are auctioning of this collection so please take a look at our other auctions. Thank You


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Grant Memorial
This coin was struck during 1922 as a centenary souvenir of Ulysses S. Grant's birth. A star which appeared on the first issues was later removed, creating a second variety. The star has no particular significance. Laura Gardin Fraser designed both the Grant half dollar and gold dollar. The reverse shows the frame house in Point Pleasant, Ohio, where Grant was born April 27, 1822.

It IS described as 1 Troy Ounce, but it also infers that this a a US Commmemorative coin.

DesertLizard

Look at his past sales and you'll see he sold another Grant Round for $71 Linkeroo .

It is misleading but only if you dont know what you are buying.

He has an outstanding feedback rating!

danglen

OK, so how much does a Grant Commemorative Half Dollar weigh? Do you think new collectors go around with a "Guide to Coin Weights" in their pockets? I have been collecting coins since 1972 and couldn't tell you how much a commemorative half dollar weighs, unless I weighed one.

Then he goes on to say "This is a 1922 Grant Memorial Silver Commemorative in cameo proof-like condition. This is 1 Troy Silver Ounce, .999 Pure Siver Ounce Individualy numbered. There were 6,741 of these silver rounds mited. This is a beautiful coin please take a look. This coin was part of my father's collection. We are auctioning of this collection so please take a look at our other auctions. Thank You".

"1922 Grant Memorial Silver Commemorative"? A"coin"? "From his fathers collection"? Right, he is obviously being very straightforward. I can't imagine anyone getting suckered into buying this as a real commemorative coin. What I was thinking when I posted this thread....?

njcoincrank

While it clearly states 1 oz commemorative ( should be enough to know that it isn't a real US commemorative ), the seller does indicate that it was struck in 1922. Big no no. Lastly the item doesn't not have a denomination on it. Could this be one of the super rare $100K patterns struck on an over size planchet?

EDUCATION-EDUCATION-EDUCATION-EDUCATION!!!!!!!!!

And lets not forget to buy the book before the coin, so we can see a picture of a real one.

njcoincrank

Outhaul

Linka-dinka-doo-doo

Here it is. While it does say 1 oz. silver, the title is intentionally deceptive to draw hits. Also, newbie collectors may not know that the genuine article is not 1 oz. of silver. The seller makes no effort to clearly state that this is a silver round and even goes so far as to state, "All grading has been performed by a local dealer with over 30 years of expience." This may lead a non-collector to believe that this may be a genuine mint product.

Sorry, but this guy is a scumbag.

Cheers,

Bob

danglen

<< <i> Sunday March 09, 2003 1:30 PM (NEW!)



Linka-dinka-doo-doo

Here it is. While it does say 1 oz. silver, the title is intentionally deceptive to draw hits. Also, newbie collectors may not know that the genuine article is not 1 oz. of silver. The seller makes no effort to clearly state that this is a silver round and even goes so far as to state, "All grading has been performed by a local dealer with over 30 years of expience." This may lead a non-collector to believe that this may be a genuine mint product.

Sorry, but this guy is a scumbag.

Cheers,

Bob >>




Bob,

I second the motion.

dbldie55

The title in an ebay auction is all marketing. I see nothing wrong there. Gotta get people to look. Most marketing is somewhat mis-leading.

Guess we will just have to agree to dis-agree on this one.

Off to exert the extra energy towards the "new years resolution"

Liberty

As a newbie I've decided to speak for newbies everywhere on the matter

This auction is, to someone just starting out, very misleading and obviously its intended to be that way. Although I've been reading about coins constantly for the last month or so I didn't realize that "rounds" indicated straight silver (or other metals) vs the term "coin" which I presume has some sense of "legal tender" attatched to it. I can see where a lot of newbies would confuse this.

Even so....it took me all of 30 seconds to compare the picture in my Red Book with the acution to realize its not the same thing. So, I have little sympathy for any newbie spending $70 for a coin they didn't bother to invest 30 seconds to research.

They guy's still a scumbag though. "Father's estate". Yeah....sure.

Liberty

FatMan

Libery

Well said. I am glad that you have taken the steps necessary to avoid scumbags like this seller. He clearly is trying to deceive and only a few years ago I too may have been his victum.

cosmicdebris

L@@K he getting over $150.00 for a 1921 Alabama 1 oz. Silver Commemorative???????????????????

danglen

Yes, but remember, he's only "marketing". I'll bet that for a few thousand bucks I could get a complete set of 50 "commemorative" silver rounds from this seller. What an impressive addition to my estate! I'm sure my heirs (especially Petescorner) would be thrilled