Thoughts about this bust half toning.

DHeath

Any thoughts about the toning on this half? The coin has a nice die crack on the obverse. The reverse has a hint of blue around the rim, and the obverse has more green than the picture shows.

BillJones

It looks fake to me. The reverse might cause one to wonder, but the obverse is not very convincing.

Dave99B

Doctored, BIGTIME.

Dave

TomB

Looks like the photo was taken with regular indoor lighting and no color correction, so, I will give my opinion based on what I think the coin really looks like. With that caveat in place, I don't like the look of it.

sinin1

I think the obverse has been whizzed or has lots of scratches/hairlines, and has been darkened up to hide that fact.

EVillageProwler

Don,

From what I see in your images, I would be hesitant to submit the coin to be slabbed for fear of a BB due to A/T. Nevertheless, the coin does have a certain appeal to it.

Regards,

EVP

DHeath

Thank you all. I told Bill in an earlier email I would post about this coin after a few folks had seen it. It is a cleaned/BB coin, and has been a pocket piece of mine for awhile. I put it on a shelf in the kitchen about 6 mos ago and forgot about it. I was curious what it would look like after being exposed to the sulfur from our gas range. You have all confirmed my suspicion that you are quite expert at recognizing trickery in digital images. It will never be resold, and I enjoy owning it because I can carry it, handle it, and allow it to be just what it began life as, a piece of pocket change. Sinin1, great eye. The reverse is cleaned as well. I'm amazed you can see the cleaning from that purposely vague photo. Tom, it is indeed indoor lighting using a single reveal bulb. Perhaps in 10 or 12 years, it'll be a nice addition to Braddicks collection.

coinkat

I am not going to offer an opinion without actually seeing the coin. However, DHeath, I will offer a few suggestions from the cheap seats... If this were my coin, I would look at it closely with a 16x loupe, tilting the coin in search for hairlines. I would even consider using a microscope to get the best possible look at the fields. I am not suggesting that you use the microscope to determine the grade, but just to raise your comfort level with what you have.

It is possible that the coin may have been dipped decades ago and perhaps was inadequately rinsed and then stored in an envelope. The most troubling issue is really whether or not the coin was dipped and retoned to cover hairlines. Perhaps my suggestions my not be the most helpful, it these steps have worked for me.

Finally, if you still have doubts, take the coin to a larger show and have ANACs give you an opinion on the grade and if it was AT. JUST SOME THOUGHTS...

sinin1

DHeath, I did not see the specific scratches on your coin from the picture.

I have a $400 quarter from near the same year that is a $400 lesson to me. It looked like a solid AU and I sent it to ANACS. It came back whizzed NET XF45. Bummer of all bummers.

I looked and looked, but could not see any signs of whizzing. The coin was dark over the entire obverse and reverse. I got some jewelluster and did some dipping.

I was extremely surprised at what I saw and now see - the dark areas came off, but the high pts on the obverse stayed dark, almost like someone put black paint/die/something on to hide signs of rub.

Now I see some old hairlines and scratches, still looking to decide if die polish or whizzing on left/right lines.

So, by looking at the dark locations on your coin, and the obverse fields being the main areas of cleaning - also the areas with green toning -> I surmised what had happened.


If that were sitting in my kitchen for 6 months, it could be regular mold