Grade posted on page 2! Guess the grade (another boring Morgan!) - now it is a contest!

Monstavet

See below for contest info!
Always hard to grade from a scan I know, but this one pretty accurately shows the coin.
The frost on the highlights is accurate, including the weakness in the frost on the neck.
The mirrors are not clear in the scan, but in person are clear to 3-6 inches.
Marks as follows: 2 reed marks (I think this is the right term) just below the S, one small dimple below the eye, one small tick/scratch?? just touching the start at the 3:30 position.
Reverse comes next.

Baley

that is a very very nice dollar. If the reverse is equivalent or better, looks like a 66 to me, and a pq one at that. If that coin is only in a 65 holder it's a candidate imo

greghansen

MS65PL

Monstavet

Here is the reverse.
Similar frost and mirrors as obverse.
3 small "carbon" spots (on right wing, on "d" in God, and between head and left wing.
Reed marks near the "U" and near the star on the right.
A few bag marks in the filed near the eagle's right wing.

nwcs

Very nice looking dollar. I think with the scratches on the cheek, it will be between 64 and 65. The fields are nice, so I think it'll end up being 65. And unless the reverse is really bad I'll stick with 65.

Neil

paigowjohnny

Morgans are NEVER boring....and I'd say 65 PL without seeing the reverse

Monstavet

This is a straight scan with no modifications. The scan is very accurate with the exception noted for the mirrors as above.
I will post the grade a little later.

agfox

ms65/5 pl

Baley

reverse nice but not 66, I'm guessing (because its pcgs) that its MS65, no PL, but coin would not look too out of place in a 66 holder. close?

Shocker

I'll go conservitavely at MS64PL. Those very few imperfections really caught my eye. I know they probably don't show up in person, but they got my attention with the blown up pic.

DCAMFranklin

MS-65 Thanks for sharing!

Coppernicus

I'm going with MS65 with (small) chance of PL.

Monstavet

Any more guesses? Let's turn it into a giveaway! There will be a free coin (something nice) for the person who guesses the PCGS grade first, and accurately explains why! You can only guess one time. If you want to change your previous guess, that is fine, but you only get one from here, and you have to provide a good explanation. Someone may have already guessed the grade (or maybe not ), I am leaving it wide open for now.

Edited to clarify I am looking for the grade on the holder...since grading is a matter of opinion.

ajaan

MS 66

ANACONDA

PCGS MS 67 PL

That's a mighty big scan you got there.

Shocker

I'll stick with my guess of MS64PL. I will explain a little more... The "chatter" on the cheek is distracting at high magnification. Also, the lettering on the reverse is beat up a bit with scratches, mostly just the "T", "E", and "O". it probably did come back as 65 or 66, but I'm still sticking with my guess.
If it's in an ICG slab, it's MS70DMPL easy.

TONEDDOLLARS

ms67.

Monstavet

PCGS slab.

Anaconda: Go Big or Go Home!

jgrech

I'll say MS64 due to the cuts under the eye, the few marks further down the check, and the mark next to the first star after unum, although I'm sure all of these marks are seriously exaggerated due to the close up picture.

JeffinMich

I'd give it a 66. Doesn't look PL to me, but that might be the scan. Great strike offsets the minimal bag marks to slide it in a 6 slab.

grip

I will say they gave you a 6 with PL because it's a common date.Al

banknote1

I am going to jump out there and say MS66PL! The fields on the coin look to be free of bag marks. Miss Libs cheek looks super clean. The 3" to 6" wouldn't be enough for the coin to be called DMPL.IMO. I think PCGS only calls a coin DMPL if it has at least 4"+ mirrors all the way around the coin...

DCAMFranklin

I'll stick with the original MS-65.

mbbiker

I'll give it a MS-64 not PL looks like a nice coin but the reverse really brings the grade down. The obv is a 66 but the Rev is pretty bad so my vote is MS-64

Morganluver

Easily MS65 and maybe 66, but because of a couple of hits below the eye, I'll keep it at a super high end 65. Can't tell about the reflectivity from the scan though. Could be a PL.

relayer

MS-67

airplanenut

MS65PL- There are a few distracting cuts in the fields, and the spot, but it has nice mirrors and overall good frost... shall I PM my address?

Blackhawk

MS64-PL It has too many small marks for a 65 for this date/mm in my opinion.

Baley

Ok here's my reasoning: PCGS MS66, and that's a market grade. A few fewer tiny marks and it's a 67, a few more and it's a 65 or even 64. If the mirrors were a bit deeper and/or the frost a bit thicker, it would be 65DMPL, but they dont give it the DMPL because not quite deep enough and not enough contrast, but still a nice coin and worth 66 money, so instead they award another point, like the previous poster said, the strike is outstanding, the hair over the ear is detailed as are the breast feathers. the luster is probably pretty good (for a semi-pl coin) so thats my final guess: MS66 (no PL)

prooflike

MS-65

gsaguy

66

GSAGUY

grip

If that coin was scaned at 300,you all would be posting grades of 7 & 8's.A tick looks like a crater with a scan that large..JMO..Al

boiler78

I am in with the 66pl crowd

Baley

c'mon, let's have it! what's printed on the insert??

MrKelso

REV of 1879? MS66PL

FatMan

MS66PL

Very clean coin. Scan does not show a clear PL but based upon your description I give it the PL.

VonZipper

I guess MS-68PL. Well what is it?

FC57Coins

I'll go with MS66 as well - just doesn't strike me as PL. But still a very nice coin!

Frank

stman

IMO it's 65, but it's probably graded 66.

Monstavet

Okay, but y'all ain't gonna believe me!

First, nobody wins!
I think a few people guessed the correct grade, but NOBODY guessed what PCGS thought that day at the grading table.

PCGS gave it a whopping MS62!!!
Ouch! Insert#21201587 for confirmation.

More background:
I bought this coin when it was not in a PCGS holder from a respected board member, who happens to be a serious Morgan collector. We both agreed that it was a 65+ coin...and if things went well, would go 66. The obverse certainly appears to be solid 66, but the Reverse -as many pointed out, is just not quite as nice...WHile it has good frost, and decent reflectivity, we both felt semi-PL at best....so a nice looking MS65 leaning towards MS66. I paid 65 money for it. I paid the costs of grading it. Now I am buried in a wonderful MS62 coin. The prize was going to be the coin, if someone could satisfactorily explain why it was only MS62 to me. But the closest grade I see is MS64 by jgrech and mbbiker...hats off to you guys, but no cigar!

I know grading from a scan is hard, so I provided a large one and emphasized all the marks I could see.
The best darn MS62 Morgan ever....end of story!

nwcs

Unless there are problems that aren't captured in the pic, I can't imagine what would be in the minds of the graders! Unless it's the fact that a 2 appears below the 5 on the keypad? Maybe a mistype? I would hope!

Neil

stman

grip

I would say it's all subjective grading,but that is blantly sublunacy.Al

boiler78

Crack it send it in raw for grading and we can have a "guess the grade now" contest.

Monstavet

That might be fun! Who will chip in another $30 plus postage and insurance for me? If I am gonna go in the hole on this coin, I can always make the hole a little deeper, right? I guess PCGS results will be available in 2 months or so...lol

maddox

Monsta - Nice Morgan, but the distracting rim dings on the reverse under the O and across from the A and the T on the reverse is really abraded. My humble opinion is a 65.

relayer

It's MS-62 because PCGS screwed up.

Do I win the coin now?