Who is John Butler?

Flash

I ask because I have gotten this same email message several times. I assume he has gleaned addresses from the PCGS Registry, and I was wondering if others have gotten the same message, and if anybody knows who this person is.



Hello, This is John Butler

I am interested in helping you complete your Registry set. To some this is very important, to others it's not so important. However, most people would still enjoy completing it. That's what I am here to help you with. To start to do business with you I would simply like to know the coins that you are especially looking for, along with the grade you would like. Also the ballpark price range would be a help in my search for the perfect coins for your need. Weather you are looking for a $10 coin or a $10,000 coin I guarantee you that I can find it and at a price that you will love. Please E-mail me back at your convince and I look forward to do business with you. ----If you maintain mutable registry sets, you will receive mutable E-mails, as I am sending them to each individual registry set

Sincerely,
John Butler


By the way, what is a "mutable" registry set and how can I start one?

NumisEd

Flash, there's an identical thread to the one you just started. It's active and on page one as I write this. Great!! Now we have mutable threads

truthteller

Mutable= multiple? Or some forum of mutated registry set?


TRUTH

kieferscoins

The Thread

Cameron Kiefer

BigE

Mutt--able, he is saying your coins are mutts-------BigE

Flash

Flash, there's an identical thread to the one you just started.

Yeah well, that's the story of my life.. always a day late and and dollar short.

mbbiker

I just got an e-mail back from him if your interested in reading it here it is, I asked if he was part of Sahara Coins in Las Vegas, and if he wasn't does he have any references.


<< <i>I do not officially own a business. I do provide coins for people. I have mainly just started this in the last month. I have collected coins, but now I am interested in selling coins and searching for coins that people need for their set. I have no references at this time, as my deals are still in the works. I will make agreements with you such as a no conditional return policy, also I would be willing to have you pay for part of the coin, and the rest after you receive it. I know that their are a lot of crooks out their but I would be willing to sell you a cheap item, to gain your trust on more expensive ones. If you are willing to do business with me, I would be very happy. If not than I do understand your concern with crooks. Thank you for responding to my original E-mail, >>

JohnButlerfromLV

This is the John Butler from Las Vegas who used to grade for PCGS.
I currently work at Sahara Coins in Las Vegas, Nevada.
I have never sent spam to Set Registry members, nor would I ever even consider doing such a thing.
My seller ID on ebay is vintagepapermemories.com which you can see does not sell coins. My feedback has not been as low as 7 since 1998. It currently is well over 7000.
Any coins that I may be selling would be sold under Sahara Coins on Ebay. I very seldom participate in the selling of coins on ebay. The only Numismatic related items you would see me selling on ebay is items from my Numismatic library. We do not have any problem selling set registry quality coins. We would never have the need to spam members to sell more coins.
I have no idea how to create a "mutable" registry set, nor do I intend on learning how to do such a thing. I spend my days grading and pricing coins, my nights with postcards showing images of early 20th Century history. I would not have the extra time to follow up the many angry emails that spam would create.
Thanks for those who know me and came to my defense.
John Butler
Sahara Coins

LucyBop

coinguy1

Hi John (the only REAL John Butler),

Good to hear from you!

Gilbert

mbbiker,

So did he reveal anything about himself (background, experience, location)??

jbsteven

I must have gotten the same email roughly 3-4 months ago. It might have been different wording but it was similar in context. I responded to him with a simple sentence of what have you got and for what price.

I never got a response.

smelled like a scam then and still does.

Lakesammman

On the other thread, it's stated you deal in Num. Literature. On ebay, under sahara coins, there are 75 low priced coins only. Let me know your correct ebay user name as I'm interested in the literature aspect.

Typo edit

walkerman

Hopefully he will use any profits for spelling lessons.That would be a "convince" in reading his emails.