Is this a full head SLQ?

mbbiker

I'm trying to learn how to figure out what a full head looks like, found this one on e-bay does full head just mean that the head is all there? i always thought there was an ear hole or somthing like that, that had to be there. please teach me. Thanks.

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itsnotjustme

What a joke! It's not even a 1917. FH normally only applies to MS and high AU grades. Not VG.

Tonelover

That's a great example of what's NOT a full head. That guy is so far off it's just pathetic.

Full head characteristics vary depending on whether it's a Type-1 or 2, but there should be an earhole, fully separated hairline running down the face, and all three olive sprigs (Type-2) well defined. All elements are supposed to be present, although you will frequently see Full Heads in certified holders which do not technically qualify. Never buy one of those.

coppercoins

Seems pretty obvious to me that the obverse photo doesn't belong in that auction, and either the seller or the service screwed up. I would wholeheartedly disrecommend using Ipix as an image service, unless you want to have serious migraines. I have seen a number of times where there service has been very slow to completely non-existant.

Back to the subject, it's likely there was a simple photo mismatch there, so don't knock the seller out of the water on a mistake.

ANACONDA

Jon - Jay Cline, author of the standard and maybe only reference guide to SLQs, disagrees with you. He gives and shows three states of
full-headedness. Minimum, Sharp and Full. See page 51 of his third edition.

Many, though, agree with you, Jon, that there is only one kind of full head.

I suspect that in the future, PCGS and NGC will break it down further, you know, 75%, 90%, etc., etc., or something like that.

Personally, I think breaking it down into thousandths by using a Ronco Headometer is what what should be done.

adrian

airplanenut

The first image doesn't match up... it's a weak 1919 vs. a 1917 T1... AU can be full head, but not likely- MS can, too...

kieferscoins

Ultimate FH thread with photo's

Cameron Kiefer

mbbiker

thanks for the link. how did i know it was going to be posted by coinguy, because he is one of the few that almost always posted to help out the dumber forum memebers (talking about me)

jom

<< <i>Ronco Headometer >>



I thought Ronco took that off the market after the Bill/Monica fiasco?

jom

ANACONDA

LOL but ashamed of it.

relayer

The ANA standard states only an MS-70 can be a FH.

The grading companies have their own, less strict standards.

However, the coin in your link only qualifies as a full head only in the sense that the entire head hasn't been worn down.

smprfi

Here is a real Pcgs AU-58 Full Head.