THE solution - don't buy toned OR untoned coins!
coinguy1
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A number of excellent reasons have been given for avoiding toned coins - many are ugly, QT, AT, too dark, too original, uneven, too pretty and/or simply unacceptable, for reasons galore. 
But wait - there is equally good justification to avoid untoned coins, too. Many have been dipped (and we can't even tell which ones) and might retone. They might be missing metal as a result of the dipping - never mind that we would probably need a microscope to tell. Some consider any dipping to be as bad as a harsh/harmful cleaning or doctoring.
So, to play it safe, we can just avoid the toned coins, and the untoned ones, as well. Who's with me on this one?
Come on, let's start a REAL rebellion! 
Or, in the alternative, we can use common sense, buy what we like, not worry about whether others have the same preferences that we do, learn what we can, and enjoy our hobby. Hmmm...THAT would be different.
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But wait - there is equally good justification to avoid untoned coins, too. Many have been dipped (and we can't even tell which ones) and might retone. They might be missing metal as a result of the dipping - never mind that we would probably need a microscope to tell. Some consider any dipping to be as bad as a harsh/harmful cleaning or doctoring.
So, to play it safe, we can just avoid the toned coins, and the untoned ones, as well. Who's with me on this one?
Come on, let's start a REAL rebellion! Or, in the alternative, we can use common sense, buy what we like, not worry about whether others have the same preferences that we do, learn what we can, and enjoy our hobby. Hmmm...THAT would be different.
In case anyone is unclear about the tone (pun intended) of this post, here are three hints:
1)
2)
3)
PS - please don't flame me.
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<< <i>I agree with you to much "this is AT, that has been dipped", if you dont like it dont buy it. If u do like it then buy it! As simple as that. >>
That would be soo much easier to do. But I think the main thing thats holding people back is that grading services do grade higher if the toning is good, am I wrong?
I am officially now a fanatic... a freak. I have decided to appreciate this coin on a rarity/preservation/beauty scale of my own devising.
It should be illegal.
Mark--you're a trouble maker and I am officially starting a petition to have you not only banned from this board, but all of numismatics.
Clankeye
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Andy
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roadrunner
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<< <i>uh oh dorkkarl is sure to disagree >>
danged right! mark, you are making far too much sense. what you are asking would require "collectors" to learn how to think for themselves. why should they, if pcgs & ngc are around to do the thinking for them? seems like $350 MILLION is cheap for the privilege of having someone else think for you.
i guess i'm jumping ship. i say, enjoy only what pcgs permits you to enjoy.
K S
I'm trending more and more toward viewing the slab as an insurance policy only. I grade the coin and if I like the price, I buy it - knowing that the slab is a bit of insurance if the coin later turns vibrant purple or horridly black.
Other than that, I don't think much of grade guarantees and I don't think much of ever changing professional opinions. Do as Q. David Bowers says - use the grade on the slab as a starting point and decide if YOU like the coin. Then, if the price is right, buy it.
peacockcoins
I guess the only thing left is original, natural coins.
Sounds like a good idea.
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K S
<< <i>Do as Q. David Bowers says - use the grade on the slab as a starting point and decide if YOU like the coin. Then, if the price is right, buy it. >>
I've said that all along...in fact, I'm sure I got that advise from Bowers.
jom
I agree with Mark - just collect the coins that you like and don't try to force your opinion about what people should collect and what is right and wrong on the rest of the community! If you see a coin that YOU like, what does it matter if someone else doesn't like it? It's not going into that other person's collection - it's going into YOUR collection!
Look at the slabs as someone else's opinion of the coin, then ignore that opinion and form your own! If you don't know how to grade the coin (if that's what it takes to form your opinion) - LEARN!! There are enough books available to learn how to do basic grading on any coin ever made!
And after you have formed your opinion on the grade of the coin, throw it out! Look at the coin - do you like the way it looks?? Then buy the coin!
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I would welcome any comments.
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