Is there anyway to tell if an NGC slab is the new air tight version?

Russ

Just by looking at it? Any telltale signs?

Russ, NCNE

mbbiker

see other thread

kieferscoins

On the label it will say Numismatic Guarantee Corporation.

New holder and label on the left, old on the right:



Cameron Kiefer

gsaguy

I don't know that any of them claim to be airtight, but then I don't keep up that closely with their marketing claims. Are you asking about that or whether you can tell those that impart toning to the coins due to the fact that the label is not isolated?

GSAGUY

Russ

GSAGUY,

I actually don't care if the slab is really air tight. I'm interested because if it's in one of those holders, it's recently graded. The ones that I've bought where the seller stated in the auction that it was the air tight holder have been much better than those I've purchased in the past.

Russ, NCNE

Russ

Excellent, thanks Cameron!

Russ, NCNE

stman

<< <i>I'm interested because if it's in one of those holders, it's recently graded >>



Russ, Are you sure about that?? Anybody can get a coin re-holdered and say new holder. Then some people will assume what you are.

Just some food for thought, you know, buy the coin

Russ

HMM...good point, Stman. I didn't think of that.

Russ, NCNE

stman

Hey Russ, that advice I just gave you made me a collector now on the boards. So maybe I'm getting somewhere.

Serious though, years ago I used to want the most current holder feeling it was just graded, then learned it doesn't mean anything.
Heck, as many coins as you crack out you knew this

braddick

<< <i>I don't know that any of them claim to be airtight, but then I don't keep up that closely with their marketing claims. Are you asking about that or whether you can tell those that impart toning to the coins due to the fact that the label is not isolated? GSAGUY >>


GSAGUY:
I spoke to Larry Briggs a couple days ago on the phone and he assured me the only holder that safely separates the insert (with all that tone causing paper and ink) is SEGS.
None of the others offer this feature. I found his comments (and enthusiasm) interesting.

Clankeye

Cameron, thanks for posting that picture. I have been wondering which of those was the more recent slab. And that's what I thought.
I actually prefer the slabs on the right. I have this collection of NGC coins and of the roughly 18 coins in it, some are in the new holder, some are in the holder to the right, then you've got about three versions of older holders... because I don't really like the new holder as much as the one before it, I guess I'll just get over my compulsive desire that all my NGC coins be in matching holders. Because I am not sending them in for reholdering... NO! probably not... okay, maybe. Shoot, how much is it going cost?

Carl

gsaguy

Braddick,

There's no doubt that some of the older version NGC slabs impart some toning to the coin but I've not heard, nor seen the same from any of the PCGS holders, even the first generation slabs. Of course, anything is possible.

As for those SEGS slabs, I don't know if they totally isolate the paper and ink from the coin, but they sure are tough to crack open. I had one guy tell me all you had to do was freeze the holder and then smack it with a hammer on the edge.....neither of which seemed too appealing to me.

GSAGUY

braddick

By "tone" I believe Larry was mostly speaking of the nasty, hazy kind that imparts itself in disgusting ways on otherwise pretty and spotlessly mirrored proofs.

ArtR

I would advise anyone that has coins be they white or toned in the old NGC Holders, the ones with no perforation below the insert to have them reholdered. I have seen some where the paper insert had started to come apart and pieces of the paper had migrated down to the coin. The worst I have seen was the whole paper insert coming loose and moving down to cover the upper half of a Morgan Dollar.