S&G Accugrade Holder

relayer

S&G holder

Barry

The equivalent of a 2x2 with a grade written on it with pen, except a little more difficult to open.

toothpuller

Long time Accugrade seller, same old holder now with his own custom label.

NumisEd

I forgot to mention my observations of these type of people at the FUN show, if I may use the word "people" so carelessly. It seems that in the back of the room there was a fairly high concentration of reaaaal sleezy coin dealers all selling this type of slab with their own names on the holders, or ACG slabs. All overpriced, all overgraded. Guess who was a AH Collectibles' table every time I walked by. Alan Hager, fearless leader of ACG Accugrade. The image was surreal and nauseating at the same time.

There was a very elderly man (no offense to the elderly or handicapped) who was in a motorized chair behind the AH Collectibles table. You could hear him buzzing around behind the table while Alan seemed to be discussing the quality of his company with any passerby who had not yet had enough lunch in their stomach to hurl. I saw Mr. Hagar arguing with another "dealer" (again I use the term lightly) about a bounced check or something. I was just walking by, but they were so loud that you could not help but to hear. Way too many foul words being exchanged, too.

A couple of rows down was Sunshine Rarities. Now THAT was one scary table. The leader had a wad of toilet paper shoved up his nose the whole time that I walked the floor (3 days). Some sort of medical thing, I am guessing. There were 2 other guys behind the table that looked like mafia hit men, IMO. I guess that you just had to be there. I spent quite a bit of time at their table on Sunday because I was bored by this point. Man, what crap, IMO. They had one complete case of modern Roosevelts slabbed by them (via Accuslap), I think. They were off-brand slabs and every coin was MS-69 or MS-70, as I recall. I was unfortunate enough to watch what some unsuspecting buyers overpaid for coins. Man, I almost ordered from these guys out of Coin World before because their ads were so enticing. It was great to really see their operation before having ordered anything. Alan Hager was seen at this table quite often, too.

Gee, I guess I don't know the point of this post, other than this thread jogged my memory about the FUN show. Thanks a lot relayer, now I have to go to therapy today.

MadMonk

<< <i>Gee, I guess I don't know the point of this post, other than this thread jogged my memory about the FUN show. Thanks a lot relayer, now I have to go to therapy today. >>



Insted of spending a hundred on therapy, go buy yourself a nice coin.
or
Buy a cheap Accu___t slab, pulverize it with a ballpean, then sell it on ebay!

dragon

NumisEd,

Thanks for the play by play of the bottom of the barrel, scourge of the coin industry. I heard that one of the sales guys at Sunshine Rarities (Jim?) was actually in prison for awhile for some type of fraud scheme. If I was the show organizer, I would not even let dealers like that in the show, much less give them a table and allow them to offer their wares.

dragon

Android

I too experienced Sunshine Rarities at the FUN show. NTC seemed to be their slab of choice along with their NGS (National Grading Service) label. An astounding amount of junk with equally astounding price tags. I agree that the folks behind the counter were SCAREY. I kind of kept my distance from the guy with the congestion problem. I thought he was going to sneeze or cough on me. Hopefully not too many new collectors will see this guy and get a blanket impression about coin dealers.

Andy

cointagious

ntc & big jimmy dempsey at sunshine had a falling out. seems slim wanted a bump of 2 or 3 grades above reality and ntc balked - one grade seems to be their limit





<< <i>The leader had a wad of toilet paper shoved up his nose the whole time that I walked the floor (3 days). Some sort of medical thing, I am guessing. >>



rumor has it as a coke problem - heard that before the show. also heard his paper was bouncing.

JUST PASSING ALONG A RUMOR!!!!!! BASED ON NOTHING BUT HEARSAY!!!!!!!!

JOsborne

NumisEd

I just read your post and laughed my rear end off. In fact, I busted a gut. Your story describes most of my visits to coin shows and why I steer clear of them.

The leader had a wad of toilet paper shoved up his nose the whole time that I walked the floor (3 days). Some sort of medical thing, I am guessing

Hysterical.

NumisEd

also heard his paper was bouncing

Just may be true. I now recall that the guy with the toilet paper crammed up his nose was the guy that the Accu-grease leader was arguing with about a bounced check. Of course I only caught every other word, not counting the numerous 4 letter words. I just hope that no YN's were in the area. That would be the end of their coin collecting for sure!

Conder101

Found out this weekend that so far there are 14 companies so far using the Accugrade encapsulation service. So far I know the names of three of them. I haven't decided how to handle this in the second edition yet. I don't know whether to list them seperately or as a class and then list the known company names.

BillJones

Now here's the BUG Condor: Are you going to add 14 more ACG slabs to your collection? If you decide to keep up with the ACG children, your colleciton could get to be quite large and perhaps expensive to maintain.