Is this Full Bands or not ?

Fairlaneman

I'll post this thing here and then after a few comments, hopefully, I will give a comment or two about what I think about this coin.



Ken

Placid

Can you get a close up of the center bands?
From the picture it looks like it's not. They look fused on the right side of the picture.

KlectorKid

I'll say its not.

wingedliberty

90% SPLIT. Not rounded and FSB. They need to be like two loaves of Italian bread, one on top of
the other.


Brian.

Cam40

I see what Placid sees.
Need to get out the exacto blade dude. lol

Fairlaneman

Here is a closer look at the middle band. I'm putting this up without reading any respones except the post that requested a closer look.



Ken

coppercoins

I'll go out on a limb and say they are full bands. They require a split all the way across, and judging from what I can see they are. Any point where they don't LOOK split could be from the scan, not the coin.

fcloud

I think it is close, but no cigar. They not only don't look rounded, there seems to be a small spot toward the right side that has a ding or other imparement through the slit.

fcloud

Nice looking coin though.

marcmoish

Ken, I've gotta say it looks FB to me, sure looks like most of my FSB's I've got ...whats the date?

Marc

Nic

Yes, FSB. Better than many I've seen. Must not have been slabbed as such? K

coppercoins

I don't think dings or impairment preclude a FB designation. What we are judging here is strike, not grade in general. If the coin was fully struck with dies that exhibited FB, then the coin is FB, regardless of whether there are hits on the bands.

It has always been my experience that the bands do not have to be fully rounded and absolutely complete for the coin to be FB. It's FB if the bands are split all the way across without breaks....with no regard to whether they are round.

bennybravo

From the close-Up, I'd say Yes.but It's probably a no go considering there's a thread about it.

fcloud

Coppercoins,

Hits or knicks over a seam will preclude a dime from being considered for full bands. I asked that question of David Hall in the question and answer forum, he responded with the fact that the slit has to be 100% through any interuption will cause the coin to not be full band. (Not his exact words, but his message).
Tony

Android

The small gouge just right of center would make me think that a grading company would have said NOT FB. Both PCGS and NGC, particulary NGC are real sticklers about FB. They will not give a FB designation if there is a mark that crosses both bands.

Andy

Fairlaneman

Interesting comments so far. I'll wait a little longer or maybe untill tomorrow morning. Some non Merc collectors just might learn something here.

The Date is......Hmmm, think I will hold off on that also as it may just be a dead give away to the answer. The PCGS grade is MS66 though.

Ken

marcmoish

Hmmmm...back I guess I can sleep with the anticipation
Marc

jbsteven

I know it is not a fb designation and I know the year and mintmark

Fairlaneman

JB have you been checking something ? Maybe a very sharp eye that has seen something others have not ?

Ken

jbsteven

we have discussed this coin before

mbbiker

if it's not graded as a FSB i would crack it and send it back in, they sure look fully split to me.

airplanenut

I would say yes... i see a split all the way.

Fairlaneman

OK. I know its getting late across the country.

The coin is a 1945 Micro S PCGS MS66 coin. No FB but they are Fully Split, weakly, but still Fully Split. A few years back and this would have been in a FB holder. It is actually stronger than a couple of other Green Holdered Dimes I have. Another comment I think I will give is that this coin is the second fairly expensive S mint coin that I have obtained that did not get the designation. Not griping mind you but it does at times seem strange that this does happen to certain coins within the series. BTW this is also a example of strongly struck coins that can be bought for a fraction of the FB coins. A Great deal in my book.

Thanks for the comments folks. It was a pleasure reading all of them.

Ken

marcmoish

Totally agree with you...........I'd buy that any day for my set ..........................as FSB!!!