is it time two split the modern and classic coins into seperate forums?
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What's your opinion? mike 
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Brian.
No, because no one will be able to agree on when Modern coins started.
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It could never happen. Too many of you would spend too much time yelling at each other because you wouldn't be able to agree on which is which.
Let's talk Coins!
You hit the nail on the head. Plenty of room for classic and modern. Let's drop the side shows and Let's talk Coins.
2. Too many good OT topics.
3. I wouldn't learn as much
4. Too many do both - it's a hassle switching back and forth between forums.
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Bob
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<< <i>Maybe we should have a forum dedicated to Frankies!
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is with the classic collectors and much of the enthusiasm is with the newer collectors.
There is tremendous overlap between the two as anything which affects one also af-
fects the other. There is also overlap in the people who collect them.
Perhaps Gmargulis idea of a separate forum for beginners would be more appropriate.
Another forum for trolls would have less utility than in th past, but let's not overlook the
possibility of having separate forums for those who wish to bash grading services, or ton-
ing, or modern coins.
In all seriousness, how about a coin related "open forum"? It would get a lot of off topic
discussions off the front page.
I gotta say that I have my eye on some darkside stuff
I collect them all.
Just be happy the Registry Set & the DarkSide guys got sent away!
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
<< <i>It should be kept as it is. It seems to be a fun place and fun is one of the things that keeps this Hobby fresh. >>
I agree. It doesn't seem to be unmanageably large yet. Though it may be coming.
We can just skip the off topic threads.
I think many of the modern collectors are a little too touchy about the criticism. Rarely are the comments flaming you guys or attacking the modern collectors. It seems more of an expressed opinion based on the experience of the past. Just as the dot.com bubble burst with value investors having expressed concern for the past few years, the modern bubble has questionable legs. I'm sure nobody wanted to hear some old guy saying that P/E multiples of 300 and earnings estimates in the red for the forseeable future are far from attractive portfolio aquisitions. Still, they ultimately proved to be the ones around for the long haul.
The odds of your 1846 half dime losing half it's value are considerably less than seeing your 2001 "runny nose" New Jersey quarter losing 95% of it's value. On the other hand, the speculative potential of the quarter far exceeds that of the half dime.
There's plenty of room in the hobby for all of us, but nobody is going to change any minds. I sincerely wish all of us a prosperous and enjoyable future in the hobby.
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If it were to split, I think there would need to be decisions on how to split and that could be a headache in itself. By series? By date? (1950? 1964? 1970?) I am new to the forum and realatively new to collecting so I'm not aware of any generally accepted standard as to what makes a coin a classic or modern.
If a split were to happen of the US forum, I'd like to see it done more along more definite coin types and categories, such as gold coins, mint errors, large cents, Morgan/Peace Dollars, proof sets, and so on. Just my opinion.
- have a U.S. Coin Forum, and
- have a U.S. Modern Coin Forum, and
- have a U.S. CLassic Coin Forum, I would be ok with that
If your thread question is to:
- delete the U.S. Coin Forum, and
- create a U.S. Modern Coin Forum, and
- create a U.S. Classic Coin Forum, I would say no
I love Ike dollars and all other dollar series !!!
I also love Major Circulation Strike Type Sets, clad Washingtons ('65 to '98) and key date coins !!!!!
If ignorance is bliss, shouldn't we have more happy people ??
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I think many of the modern collectors are a little too touchy about the criticism. Rarely are the comments flaming you guys or attacking the modern collectors. It seems more of an expressed opinion based on the experience of the past. Just as the dot.com bubble burst with value investors having expressed concern for the past few years, the modern bubble has questionable legs. I'm sure nobody wanted to hear some old guy saying that P/E multiples of 300 and earnings estimates in the red for the forseeable future are far from attractive portfolio aquisitions. Still, they ultimately proved to be the ones around for the long haul.
The odds of your 1846 half dime losing half it's value are considerably less than seeing your 2001 "runny nose" New Jersey quarter losing 95% of it's value. On the other hand, the speculative potential of the quarter far exceeds that of the half dime. >>
Perhaps it's being told we're morons and silly and that we collect crap constantly
which makes some of us a little alert to these slams. Most of us have very thick
skins or we lurk a lot.
As for the experience of he past it was the established sophisticated collector who
repeatedly got burned. It NEVER was the newbie. Now the established collectors
agree almost to the man that the newbies are going to get burned. Makes one think.
<< <i>No, things are fine. Just because some pro-modern people cry and don't know how to skip posts or threads they don't like, doesn't mean the forum should help them be babies. I think that post was right -- it helps keep things fresh and informs the newbies. The dot.com bubble analogy is right too -- for those modern hypes were touted as being part of a "new era" of investing -- much like modern grade-rare coins are boasted to be, in support of their price levels. In any case, I appreciate the education and have learned many things here, causing some of my views to change or evolve over time. >>
Here's a trick to avoid my whining. Don't divert threads about moderns to tell us what crap
they are. It's not only the incessant drivel from some members, it's the frequent interruption.
Confine the slams to threads about peppershakers and the smell of some people and I'll
never even know you did it. Nor will I care.
<< <i>If your thread question is to:
- have a U.S. Coin Forum, and
- have a U.S. Modern Coin Forum, and
- have a U.S. CLassic Coin Forum, I would be ok with that
>>
That's a great idea iff doable.
sincerely michael
repeatedly got burned. It NEVER was the newbie."
We are not talking about the past. Also, your personal opinion about who did or did not get burned is immaterial to the expression of concern about obvious hypes or dangers.
"Here's a trick to avoid my whining. Don't divert threads about moderns to tell us what crap
they are. It's not only the incessant drivel from some members, it's the frequent interruption.
Confine the slams to threads about peppershakers and the smell of some people and I'll
never even know you did it. Nor will I care."
I don't believe I do what you state, but more importantly, if you want to control who posts what, and really want to minimize the comments you don't like, perhaps you should consider opening up your own forum where you and your modern pop-report plastic registry MS345.92 mass produced buddies can talk about the great "bargains" within your segment for newbies.