Lets rank the 3rd party slabbers....

Peaceman · December 4, 2002 4:06AM

Not sure if it's been done, but I can't find it in a search.... In what order would you list these companies for "resale value" only. i.e You get a coin slabbed at MS64 and get MS64 prices, not MS61 prices for it.

PCGS,PCI,NTC,NTG,ACG,SEGS

prooflike · December 4, 2002 4:19AM

My list would be like this:

PCGS
NGC
ANACS
PCI Green (early)
ICG
SEGS
PCI Gold/Green (late)
NTC
ACG

RotatedRainbows · December 4, 2002 4:40AM

If I remember correctly this is the 942nd time a post like this has been done in the last 6-8 months!!

Russ · December 4, 2002 4:50AM

RR,

It's actually the 941st. You were off by one.

Peaceman,

You have NTC ranked far too high. They are sleazeballs that slab junk, every bit as bad as ACG.

EDIT: Just realized you weren't ranking them.

Russ, NCNE

Peaceman · December 4, 2002 4:52AM

I didn't rank them, just put them up. I really DID try to do a search first..........

IndianHeadMan · December 4, 2002 4:59AM

Some one does a ranking of resale vaules compared to same grade slab. It is published somewhere.

Petescorner · December 4, 2002 4:59AM

I didn't rank them, just put them up. I really DID try to do a search first..........

That's OK Peaceman. Some members expect you to read all 148,900 previous threads before posting a topic of your own.

Besides, it was really sneaky how you tricked us into opening a thread about ranking 3rd party grading services with such a deceptive title.

IndianHeadMan · December 4, 2002 5:05AM

I this is as good of ranking as you are going to get.

SERVICE..... LOW.. ...HIGH.. ...AVERAGE
PCGS......... 59.35% 95.55% ... 85.50%
NGC ...........68.35% 94.95% .. 83.06%
ANACS ......45.39% ...77.29% ... 60.60%
PCI ............40.92%.. 81.04% ... 65.19%
NCI ............24.49% .. 53.11% .. 34.87%
INS............. 23.08% .. 63.94% ... 35.83%

It is located at the link below.

www.greysheet.com

jom · December 4, 2002 5:15AM

<< <i>Lets rank the 3rd party slabbers.... >>

Must we?

jom

Russ · December 4, 2002 5:17AM

Karl should be here shortly to rank, uh er, rank on them.

Russ, NCNE

osirisMMII · December 4, 2002 5:40AM

<< <i>I this is as good of ranking as you are going to get.

SERVICE..... LOW.. ...HIGH.. ...AVERAGE
PCGS......... 59.35% 95.55% ... 85.50%
NGC ...........68.35% 94.95% .. 83.06%
ANACS ......45.39% ...77.29% ... 60.60%
PCI ............40.92%.. 81.04% ... 65.19%
NCI ............24.49% .. 53.11% .. 34.87%
INS............. 23.08% .. 63.94% ... 35.83%

>>

INS??? I've been wondering what they have been up to lately. Got the detainees slabbin' coins before they get deported? Probably just a translation problem putting the correct grades on the slabs. I've got this picture in my head of a sweatshop being overseen by a burnt-out PCGS grader chompin' on a big stogie......... wouldn't this be considered cruel and unusual punishment?

braddick · December 4, 2002 5:46AM

NTC and ACG overgrade 90% of the time. Just as they are poor graders that'll overgrade, they do occassionally undergrade. I had an NTC MS66 1971-D Ike cross from their MS66 holder to PCGS MS66.

This is not a BIG coin, but whenever you can turn a $14.00 coin into a $110.00 coin, that's fun. For what it's worth: It REALLY is an MS66 too- Full strike, few ticks- nice luster and a light blue (not haze) color. 66+ really.

Same deal with a PCI MS66 1967 Kennedy. Blazing luster and no reason NOT to be MS66. PCGS agreed on a crossover.

So, maybe it's a good thing the 3RD teir Services are as bad as they are because it means they will also, occassionally, get it wrong the other way around, or- at best- sometimes get it right.

vam44 · December 4, 2002 6:42AM

<< <i>I this is as good of ranking as you are going to get.

SERVICE..... LOW.. ...HIGH.. ...AVERAGE
PCGS......... 59.35% 95.55% ... 85.50%
NGC ...........68.35% 94.95% .. 83.06%
ANACS ......45.39% ...77.29% ... 60.60%
PCI ............40.92%.. 81.04% ... 65.19%
NCI ............24.49% .. 53.11% .. 34.87%
INS............. 23.08% .. 63.94% ... 35.83%

It is located at the link below.

www.greysheet.com >>

Where`s ICGS?
They list NCI and INS,Both defunct,(?) but not ICGS!!???
Anyone know what politics are behind the ICGS boycott by the greysheet?

my3cents · December 4, 2002 7:21AM

and you left off SEGS

RotatedRainbows · December 4, 2002 8:16AM

RR,
It's actually the 941st. You were off by one.

Sorry about that Russ, my calculator is broke so I had to count by hand (dang fingers).

Bulldog · December 4, 2002 8:21AM

PCGS, NGC, ANACS BULLDOG SAYS!

Bulldog

flaminio · December 4, 2002 8:50AM

<< <i>NTC and ACG overgrade 90% of the time. Just as they are poor graders that'll overgrade, they do occassionally undergrade. I had an NTC MS66 1971-D Ike cross from their MS66 holder to PCGS MS66. >>

Oh, sure. That's the "broken-clock analogy" -- a broken clock is right twice a day. But you're right -- if you know how to grade, and have the time to look through a lot of crappy slabs, you can find a bargain or two.

My picks:

GOOD: PCGS, NGC, ICG, ANACS

BAD: SEGS, PCI

UGLY: ACG, NTC

jdimmick · December 4, 2002 9:21AM

My opinion as follows:

PCGS

NGC

ICG (typically a half point to high from MS-64 up)
ANACS

PCI
SEGS

I am not going to rank the others(especailly ,ACG), there's nothing positive to say.
NTC, I have not seen enough of there coins to make a judgement, although I probably dont need too???

The space between the services is there to simulate a scale

Lets rank the 3rd party slabbers....

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