What coin will have the greatest % price increase in 2003?

greghansen

Lets give everyone a chance to showoff their coin and business acumen! Please submit your candidates for the coin that will experience the greatest percentage price appreciation from Jan. 1, 2003 to Dec. 31, 2003. To be a valid candidate, the coin must:

1. Appear in the CDN Bluesheet or the CDN Weekly or Monthly Greysheet. I will use the values in the last 2002 weekly edition of the Bluesheet and weekly Greysheet, along with the December 2002 monthly greysheet as the starting values. If you submit a coin from the Monthly supplement to the bluesheet I will use the Dec. 2002 edition as the starting value. I will use the 'bid' values for all coins. If you submit a coin that appears in both the greysheet and bluesheet, the greysheet number will be used unless you specifically state at the time of submission that you want the bluesheet figures to be used.

2. Value of the coin (as determined above) must be between $100 and $2,500 on the beginning date of the competition, Jan. 1, 2003. I know this is arbitrary but it keeps out the low end and high end coins. I'd like the focus to be on coins available to most budgets but with good liquidity.

3. End of the measuring period will be the last weekely bluesheet/greysheet of 2003 or the Dec. 2003 Monthly greysheet/bluesheet which contains the coin you submitted.

4. Entry submission cutoff date is Dec. 31, 2002.

5. After entry cutoff, I will post a seperate thread listing all of the coins (and forum ID of submitter) which meet the above referenced criteria. Purpose of the supplemental thread will be so forum members can have a single post as a handy reference to print off will all the submissions neatly summarized.

6. Winner will receive:
a.) much acclaim, glory and noteriety from his/her fellow forum members,
b.) bragging rights as coin investment guru of 2003,
c.) bottle of champagne ($100 or less please) along with personal congratulations from yours truly!

Good luck! I look forward to receiving your best investment ideas!

Russ

<< <i>What coin will appreciate the greatest % in 2003? >>



Whatever I sell in January.

Russ, NCNE

Wingsrule

Russ,

"<< What coin will appreciate the greatest % in 2003? >>



Whatever I sell in January."

That was my guess....

Greg,

Nice idea. Send me your address. I'll throw in an addition to the prize list.

Mark

MrKelso

If it qualifies i say the currently sleeping 1/10th oz 1999 W error gold eagle in MS 69 grade.

TheNumish

I think the 1999-W 1/4 oz MS-69 is much scarcer than the 1/10 oz. I think it has potential to go up quite a bit. The problem we have with our choice is that it isn't in the blue sheet.

My pick would have been 2002 1/10 oz platinum in BU but they have alread gone up from $65 to $95 in the past few days.

cladking

I'm not sure this fits since it's a roll rather than a single coin, but the 1983-P 25 cent
roll should at the very least double next year. It's probably will list at $675 in the new
CDN if it doesn't already. The '69 roll definitely doesn't qualify since it's under $100,
but it will have an even greater percentage increase.

clackamas

Any coin in high mint state minted in 2003. They come out of the mint worth face and go up. A 2003 Lincoln in MS68 would be a good percentage bet.

NBSQLGeek

In order to get the best 2003 coins where should I go? MS 66 +++++

Cheaper the better since these will be bought in high qty and hoarded away.

shirohniichan

To be a valid candidate, the coin must:

1. Appear in the CDN Bluesheet or the CDN Weekly or Monthly Greysheet. I will use the values in the last 2002 weekly edition of the Bluesheet and weekly Greysheet, along with the December 2002 monthly greysheet as the starting values. If you submit a coin from the Monthly supplement to the bluesheet I will use the Dec. 2002 edition as the starting value. I will use the 'bid' values for all coins. If you submit a coin that appears in both the greysheet and bluesheet, the greysheet number will be used unless you specifically state at the time of submission that you want the bluesheet figures to be used.

2. Value of the coin (as determined above) must be between $100 and $2,500 on the beginning date of the competition, Jan. 1, 2003. I know this is arbitrary but it keeps out the low end and high end coins. I'd like the focus to be on coins available to most budgets but with good liquidity.

You set up these rules specifically to exclude the $15,000 pissing Minuteman quarter, didn't you?!

Ogden

In think any early "Red" Lincolns. They have been on fire recently and are selling way over price guides.

Ogden

keets

hey, hey

1928-S peace dollar in MS64.

what i think will be a real winner for the mint and anyone that gets on the bandwagon will be the Lewis and Clark Commemoratives.

al h.

09sVDB

I think all keys will go up the most % wise. To be specific I will say the 32D Quarter in XF of better.

my3cents

This will be THE COIN to own in 2003 - no doubt about it: The Pissing Minuteman Quarter!

Seriously, I believe anything that starts with 17 or 18 on the date and has an "MS" on the holder. They just ain't making any more yet there are more and more collectors every year. The supply is fixed or declining but the demand will continue to increase.

A good Specific example: 1846 Seated Liberty Dollar in MS-61

ARCO

1901-S Barber Quarter

Tyler

leothelyon

I have hopes the Jefferson nickel will make a surge upon the eve of the 2003 to 2005 new design. I've heard that the Monticello will return to the reverse but what about the entire original design. Will it change in 2006. On a simular note that I've failed to follow or do any research, in hopes that someone knows full well if there was a rise in prices and collecters for the Washington quarter in 1999.

Leo

Wingsrule

Tyler,

1901-S Barber Quarter

I hope you're right.

CLASSICS

the coin is....drum roll please........the 1933 indian head double eagle , with the date, MCMV11 on the reverse....... yes i know it is not within what you asked for, however, if this coin ever comes on the market, i beleive it will surpass anything that we have seen.

greghansen

We've got a good start. After reviewing the the candidates so far...I'm starting my buy list for the next show. LOL. Admittedly the requirement that the coin be listed by description and grade in the blue or grey sheets is arbitrary but I need the rule for two reasons. First, to make my job of monitoring the results and determining a winner much easier, and secondly, the CDN publications are going to serve as our 'objective' price guide. So the coin must be listed by denomination and by grade as well. I know that throws out all the MS68+ and PR68+ candidates...but if those are your first choice, you'll be keeping your best ideas for yourself....and you can give us your second best!

I will accept changes of your candidates up to the last day of December 2002, so if your favorite jumps the gun and has a big price increase before the end of the month, you can come back and change your choice for 2003 if you like. You can also brag that your first choice went up too far, too fast. Type coins will be eligible as long as they appear in the grey/blue sheets and are in a grade priced by the CDN publications. Rolls are also acceptable as long as they meet all other criteria.

Basically, if you can find it in the grey/blue sheets and it meets the other criteria, it is a valid candidate for the contest. Good luck, keep them coming. Thanks to those who have made unsolicited offers to add additional prizes to the winner. I will PM those who have made such offers and if they turn out to be legit, the final prize list will be published after the first of the year along with all qualifying candidates.

MrKelso

OK then if Modern Gold error is not listed in the blue sheets then my next choice will be,
The 1943 Walking Liberty Half Dollar in Certified MS 67 condition.

michael

for me the correct answer was russ with anything i sell in jan! how true i and many others seem to sell the items that go up in value dramitacally in vlaue after we sell them!

but be that as it may for me the overall best performers for the calendar year 2003 will be

deep/ultra cameo coinage pre 1915 and 36 to 42 series copper silver nickel

choice to superb gem silver copper nickel type coins proof and mintstate pre 1915

mintstate buffaloes and walkers superb gem

monster or exceptional toned coins pre 1950 choice to gem mintstate proof

common date saints ms63/64/65

any decent coin with exceptional eye appeal that has the look and walks and talks and sings to you when you see it! pre 1950

any key date coins in nice eye appealling circ grades

dmpl dollars and rarer semi key dates in pl

early commems there will be an explosion the likes you have never ever seen! well i hope so with that prediction.....lol as some little babee bunny told me some time ago if you are soooooo smart why ain't you rich...........lol

choice top end superb gem mintstate copper nick indian cents!

proof red brown super gem indian cents

i am sutre there are more but let me add that i know little to absolutely nothing about coins after 1950 also as per the above coins they must be good values with regards to their overall look and other attributes that i have discussed on these boards many times in the not too distant past

oh also peace dollars in gem and higher mintstate and also type gold coins like the ones you put into the 12 piece type set in choice and gem unc!!

sincerely michael

CarlWohlforth

I'd like to think Leo is right and a Jefferson nickel will appreciate the most But I don't think the boost we all expect from a new design will come in 2003, I think that will be a little later.

So I pick an original Seated Liberty half in PR 65, cheapest date. All I have here is an August Greysheet and there are one or two dates in the price range if I'm reading this correctly. Hopefully they are still in the allowed range.

greghansen

I've got nine valid entries so far. Need more! Doesn't cost anything to enter. The only thing at risk is your pride/ego. If you don't want to work too hard to get a candidate, throw a dart at your greysheet or bluesheet. Any coin you find on there in the $100-$2,500 range is eligible. I will bring this thread to the top again next week and then one final time prior to the new year. You can change your coin anytime before the end of the year. The values posted now are tentative and will be revised after the last grey/blue sheet of the year. I'm doing this at work so all I have here is an old November edition. Current entries are:

cladking: 1983-P Washington Quarter roll- bid $625
keets: 1928-S Peace Dollar MS64- bid $785
09sVDB: 1932-D Washington Quarter XF- bid $135
ARCO: 1901-S Barber Quarter G - bid $1,950
MrKelso: 1943 Walker Half PCGS MS67 - bid $625
CarlWohlforth: Seated Liberty Half PR65 (type coin)- bid $2,400
greghansen: $20 St. Gaudens MS65 (generic) - bid $870
hughesml: 1820 Bust Half Dollar EF- bid $180
jdimmick: 1909-s VDB MS64 (Red)- bid $1,750

commoncents

I don't think that they are listed in the blue or grey sheets yet, but if they are I'll say a BU roll of 1999 Type 2 reverse Lincoln cents.

hughesm1

My vote is for the 1820 Bust half in EF40 or higher

greghansen

This may be the last time I bring this back to the top. Nine valid entries so far as posted in the Dec. 17 note. Hoped to get more. For all the opinions barked out here, it sure is hard to get folks to commit on a position relating to the actual coin market. Go figure. Must not be too many champagne drinkers here. (Please see my prize contribution to the winner if you don't understand that reference) Either that or they don't want board members buying up their best ideas. But if you think about it...thats exactly what you want them to do. The more people you convince that your coin is the 2003 star performer, the more people you will have chasing it and the higher the price will go....making you look like a coin market genius.

Will take candidates posted up to midnight Dec. 31. The last Greysheet/Bluesheets of the year are out so those will be the values I use. Good luck and remember everyone...buy those MS65 Saints!!!!

Maybe I would have got more of a response if I'd asked which coin most people thought would DECLINE the most in market value next year. Then we could have all responded with whatever we bought last!!!

merz2

Greg
I'd have to say the Lincoln wheats PR/MS high grades.I think as the year 2009 approaches,the prices will rise considerably.

bgman

I would like to enter your contest. Thanks for the chance, and have a Happy New Year.

Generic MS64 $10 Gold Indian

Thanks Again,

Randy

fantasiize

My guess is the 1901p Barber 50c in MS63 or MS64. If I have to pick one grade, MS63.

Thanks for the contest,
Chris

wingedliberty

Easy, 1916 SLQ quarter in Good-4. Quote me on that.


Brian.

Catch22

I suspect the winner will be from the modern era. Hard to determine given the volatility this market generates when a new variety or condition census issue pops up. Having said that, I'll go with the St. Gaudens gold series. Specifically, the 1908-S in whatever grade gets closest to the 1500 limit. About Uncirculated?

jdimmick

Gregg,
I sent you a PM about my choice.

I sent it a few weeks back, but you must not have gotten it.

My two other possibilities broke the 2500 barrior this past month, so Ill go with the

1909-s VDB Lincoln 1c MS-64rd cdn supplement (bid 1750.00)


Thanks just saw the post????

DCAMFranklin

Greg- I'll go with the 1960 PR-68 Cameo Franklin.

Flash

Who cares? Buy what you like. This isn't an investment forum, it's a hobby forum.

Woodwind

Okay. I'll give this contest a try.

My guess is the 1899-O Morgan Dollar in MS65.

BTW, you all made me pull out my 2000 proof sets to see if I had a Pissing Minuteman Quarter. I don't

lazeroo

1956-P LINCOLN CENT IN MS-67 RD.

OnlyBuffalos

1917-S AU Buffalo nickel

roadrunner

A 90% bag of US Silver. Now since this is over the contest's $2500 limit, I'll pick the 40% circ silver bag now around $1300 bid. I could just as well pick the price of a gold $20 eagle but I think silver has the better play for the year.

I like Michael's choices too.

roadrunner

Bear

The coins that will go up in value the most in 2003.......The ones I dont own.

greghansen

Last chance to pick an entry. Contest closes at midnight tonight. The candidates so far are:

cladking: 1983-P Washington Quarter Roll: $625

keets: 1928-S Peace Dollar MS64: $785

09sVDB: 1932-D Washington Quarter XF: $135

ARCO: 1901-S Barberf Quarter G: $1,950

MrKelso: 1943 Walker Half PCGS MS67: $625

CarlWohlforth: Seated Liberty Half PR65 (type coin): $2,400

greghansen: $20 St. Gaudens MS65 (type coin): $870

hughesml: 1820 Bust Half Dollar EF: $180

jdimmick: 1909-S VDB MS64 (Red): $1,750

bgman: $10 Gold Indian MS64 (type coin): $860

fantasize: 1901-P Barber Half MS63: $590

wingedliberty: 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter G4: $1,250

catch22: 1908-S Stat Gaudens $20 Gold AU: $1,025

Woodwind: 1899-O Morgan Dollar MS66: $275

OnlyBuffalos: 1917-S Buffalo Nickel AU: $190

Roadrunner; US 40% Circ. Bag Silver: $1,310

coinkat

1892-s Morgan Dollar AU55. I don't have a greysheet handy so if bid is in excess of $2500, I fully accept the consequences of disqualification.

Loki

1950-D Jeff Nick MS66

fcloud

Just for fun.

I think there is a huge potential for the 1936-1942 proof issue coins. Some of these coins are way underpriced, and as we get more people collecting everyday, the potential is there.

Tony

MastaHanky

I'm going to have to agree with jdimmick, I think the 09S-VDB in MS64RD.

<< 1917-S AU Buffalo nickel >>

You called?



(Sorry, I love that coin so much, I have to post it every opportunity I get!)

zuchini

zuchini

Talk about a late entry...

I think the best buys are all of those AU coins that greghansen has been
salting away ever since he attended that ANA coin grading seminar in Atlanta

My pick is the Texas Centennial Type Commemorative in MS-66
bid at $165 in the December 13th Greysheet.

Happy New Year to All..................

Greg