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I have decided my next coin purchase would be a Jefferson Nickel, first I would like to learn a litt

Please feel free to enlighten me about the Jefferson Nickel, any information, or ask any questions you might have.

Thank you,
Ray

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  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    Proof or CS?
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Well, I will be looking for both, but I would like to learn about them before I buy.

    Ray
  • I am sure you are well aware of the Full step designation. But IMO the FS only tells part of the story. A very well struck Jeff can have quite a bit of detail on MONTICELLO and look strinkingly different than an average coin. I like to see well defined vent on the bottom far right and far left foundation, and good detail in the window trimmings. Toms cheek and lapel seem to take the brunt of obverse beatings and the steps and pillars on the reverse. I like to look for cheap well struck coins that miss FS designation because of a marks on the stairs as oppsed to washed out stairs. There are some tough dates for FS designation and most of us can't afford high end FS examples so if you get a coin that has the detail just a slight mark off you will have a coin that will cost 1/50 th the cost of a coin that is not that much different. If you have the coin, so to speak, go for a full blown FS.

    IMHO
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey ray

    there are many good jeff collectors here. carl w, solid, nickelcollector, sp, leo just to name a few who have helped me. i'm sure they'll be along if you can keep the thread up top and i'll help out in that regard. the bonus being that i'll get something out of what they give you!!!image

    what i try to do with jefferson's is focus on grade----MS66FS and the highest DCAM's i can afford. the best bang for the buck i seem to find are NGC 68CAM's in the 1950's. by narrowing my focus i've been able to learn some of the nuances about strike with the MS coins and frost/hairlining with the proofs. many collectors don't realize how nicely the nickel can tone, especially the early 60's proofs. just an interesting series and a soon to be completed one.

    al h.image
  • I know a little about proof Jeffersons. They are beautiful and inexpensive in PR 69 DCAM all the way back to the late 70s. In the early 70s and 60s PR 68 DCAMs can be had for a reasonable price. The 50s are tough in cameo and the earlier ones are super tough in cameo.

    I still have many 50s cameo coins in NGC PF 68 cameo. These just don't have as much contrast as a PCGS Cameo. But they look good if you avoid the hazy ones. (I suspect all the PCGS PR 67 coins that almost make cameo will end up in NGC PF 68 Cam holders eventually). The DCAM coins from the 50s, even '61 and '62, are very hard to find and very expensive. There are almost no early cameos. Look for clear, deep fields on those.

    Personally I prefer the cameo proofs. But PR 68 brilliant proofs are very nice looking coins too.
  • HootHoot Posts: 867
    Check out the Full Step Nickel Club. Also, pick up a copy of the Jefferson Nickel Analyst. By the way, this auction is only on for a couple of hours after this post! Excellent resource.

    Hoot
    From this hour I ordain myself loos'd of limits and imaginary lines. - Whitman
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Thank you all for the information, might I ask a few questions and add a few comments?

    1. Would any of you be able to provide a picture of the coins you are speaking of?

    2. I'm working on a few type sets, I would like to acuire an MS and a PR, I would like 1958 but will adjust, possibly 1972 (My birth year). As for Grade, of course I want the best that I can afford....how much that is...well, it depends on the grade/date. Keep in mind that all my sets will go to my Daughter someday so I would like coins that have a chance at maintaining or appreciating in value, so no culls/spotted/ugly coins please.

    3. I would like to know more information about the Jefferson, like...Why was it made? Why the change from the Buffalos? Why Jefferson on the coin? Why the Monticello? This type of information.

    Thank you all for your time,
    Ray
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    ??? No one?

    Ray
  • BIGDAVEBIGDAVE Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭
    Here You Go one 1958 pr cameo
  • BIGDAVEBIGDAVE Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭
    And if you dont like that, i also have 1961 PCGS PR68Deep cam,1963 or 1964 Pcgs PR69cam, or 1960 or 1964 PCGS PR68cam
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Hey Ray,

    How about this one:

    imageimage

    It's a PCGS PR68.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • LokiLoki Posts: 897 ✭✭
    Ooohh Purple "Glaze"! Hendrix would've been proud!image
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had two Jefferson nickels. I would have sold 'em to you, but you're too late, I'm afraid. I spent 'em in the tollbooth on the way to work.

    (Edited because that sentence contained the words two, too, and to, and I managed to get 'em all screwed up.) image

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  • If you just going to buy one of each MS and Proof, for the long term, you may
    want to consider purchasing one of the many variety coins. For example:

    MS

    1939 DDR "Doubled Monticello" - the doubling is fairly dramatic on the word
    "Monticello". It's always been a popular coin, and should remain so in the
    future.

    1943/2-P - The overdate is not nearly as striking as the 42/1 Mercuries, but
    this is the last true overdate coin that will probably ever be made by the mint!

    1949-D/S - These are extremely tougher to find nice than the pop reports
    would suggest.

    1954-S/D & 1955-D/S - There are a number of different varieties of the '55
    coin, but PCGS supposedly only recognizes the OMM #1. Both are very low
    pop coins that I believe give you a lot of bang for the buck!

    Proof

    1939 Rev of 40 & 1940 Rev of 39 - Very low pop coins that should hold their
    value well!

    1938-1942 Proofs - Prices on these are much lower than the other denominations
    for these dates, with roughly the same mintages. You can find some with
    spectacular toning. Or, take a look at BNE's Icon above for the ultimate cameo
    look (but good luck finding one, or prying it loose from him!)

    Just food for thought...you may not be able to stop with just one as these have a
    habit of growing on you! image

    Ken

    (corrected typo)

  • here is the disgner of the jeff nickel's website felix schlag website

    he moved to the town i was born in(long time before i was even thought of) image i have not had time to question my grandmother but she said she knew him. i thought that was cool.

    rip

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