What do you think about this ebay auction?

Blackhawk

Here's a link to an Ebay auction that I find interesting. The Morgan looks better than MS62 to me, although it may have impaired lustre or a horrible reverse.


Morgan Auction

Placid

I think you covered everything.

dorkkarl

LINK provided by "kriss" in the same auction, the person who allegedly riped off the seller by overgrading the coin at ms-65.

sounds like mostly jibberish, but maybe there's some golden nuggests in those rocks...

K S

dorkkarl

ANOTHER one by the same author.

anyone know who "matt thomas" is? forum member?

K S

dorkkarl

sorry for all the multiple replies, but HERE's a 3d.

K S

jhar

The way I see it this guy has the following options.

1. Learn to deal with the fact that one pays PCGS and NGC for an opinion, and opinions change, and aren't necessarily the same as his.

2. Learn to grade coins himself and be happy with that and not worry about sending the coin to PCGS or NGC.

3. Take up knitting!!!!

nuff said...

relayer

I've heard the same story that PCGS is too tough about a coin I submitted bought raw that didn't make the grade (only 1 point but it's 65 down to 64).

JLW

<< <i>Here's a link to an Ebay auction that I find interesting. The Morgan looks better than MS62 to me, although it may have impaired lustre or a horrible reverse. >>



I agree, it does look better than that, on another day it might have made 63 easily. (Hard to say without seeing the reverse though). What I find interesting about this auction is the seller moaning about being stuck with a $30.00 coin and his BIN price was $225.00? And golly, nobody jumped on that!?! Not the sharpest tool in the shed....
Joe

lathmach

I don't give a diddly what the grading services do or don't do. I don't play the slabbing game. I can do my own grading and authenticating.
This guy ought to get away from slabs too. The best advise is stick with circulated grades unless you are confident you can tell the difference in mint state coins.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be able to tell when a circulated coin has been whizzed or cleaned or had the surfaces altered. All it takes is a good loupe. And grading circulated coins is a whole lot easier for new collectors.

Ray

kieferscoins

http://www.gr8pyramid.com/coins/parting_shot.html

Cameron Kiefer

Russ

<< <i>anyone know who "matt thomas" is? >>



I don't know who he is, but if you sift through the bitterness in his writing, he makes some excellent points.

Russ, NCNE

DCAMFranklin

It would seem he expects consistent grading practices. He has been looking in all the wrong places.

MrKelso

<< <i>I don't know who he is, but if you sift through the bitterness in his writing, he makes some excellent points. >>



He does have a few good points. I wonder if some grade services to keep there big clients happy may at times push the grade on certain coins by a point or two
It's unfortunate if thats what is going on.

mact

My name is Matt Thomas but not the author of these articles. I had him as one of my favorite sellers in ebay. He seemed to have pretty good coins and I believe a return policy.

nwcs

I'm going to do my best dorkkarl impersonation:

Where is this person's proof in these articles to back up their suppositions? In no way is this person able to verify their assertions nor do they provide any proof. At best it is anecdotal experience, at worst it is just trying to blow smoke.