Collectors Universe...CLEAN UP these multiple identities!
DCAMFranklin
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In light of all the accusations made in the Braddick threads, does Collectors Universe need to get off of their DEAD REARS and cancel the multiple identities on this Forum?
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us may have split personalities one ID should suffice all of them. Bear
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Scott M
Everything is linear if plotted log-log with a fat magic marker
The Fusetalk software has all the tools necessary to do the job - quickly, easily and with permanence.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Scott,
The Fusetalk software has all the tools necessary to do the job - quickly, easily and with permanence.
Russ, NCNE >>
Just how could they if the multi-identity inclined had accounts/posted at different locations? Not that I`d try such a thing.
Even if a computer has a fingerprint - how can you tell whether it is in a public library/school/etc?
I guess if you had 10 different identities all from the same email address, it would look suspicious.
That is what makes it so hard for ebay/yahoo from stopping shilling (as if they really wanted to - higher sales prices = higher commissions)
If you haven't already - get another email address and YOU too can have multiple personalities (as if you really wanted too)
Russ, NCNE
In fact, any Member that knows of multiple identities being used by another Member should help Collectors Universe weed them out!
FYI, when these forums were upgraded to their current version, I registered the username "Greg". I then registered "gmarguli" since that is what people knew me by on the previous forums. I guess it is evil that I have these "multiple IDs"?
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There is a BIG concensus here and other Braddick/CoinDr threads that one identity is plenty. Why not cancel your other identities?
<< <i>It's called IP blocking. Once the IP address or range is blocked, the offender can have 5000 eMail addresses, but would not be able to register or post. This BBS software, (and most others), has very sophisticated admin tools for troll management.
Russ, NCNE >>
What if different family members have joined?
<< <i>What's the point unless you want to talk to yourself. Well if you don't lose arguments to yourself I guess it's OK!! >>
Heh,
I`m the most interesting identity, so I talk to myself.
unwilling to stand behind what they say!!
Brian.
<< <i>It's called IP blocking. Once the IP address or range is blocked, the offender can have 5000 eMail addresses, but would not be able to register or post. This BBS software, (and most others), has very sophisticated admin tools for troll management.
Russ, NCNE >>
Guess again.
You are correct about dymanic IP addresses. The range would need to be blocked. It's a drastic measure that, on a forum as mild as this one, is unlikely to ever be needed.
<< <i>Conversly, you can't block all the AOL IP's just to get rid of one multiple personality or no one on AOL would be able to get through. >>
I know of a forum where they did precisely that. Blocked all of AOL in order to eliminate the trolls that kept signing up through them. And, that forum has grown from about 18,000 members to nearly 100,000 members since, so doing so certainly had no impact on it's popularity.
Incidentally, at the aforementioned forum, it is an automatic permanent ban for registering and trolling under a second handle.
Russ, NCNE
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There is a BIG concensus here and other Braddick/CoinDr threads that one identity is plenty. Why not cancel your other identities?
Isn't that like saying that someone uses a gun for evil and that all guns are evil? People abuse alcohol, so ban all alcohol?
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Out of the closet Morgan lover
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Scott M
Everything is linear if plotted log-log with a fat magic marker
Dial-up modems do not have a unique MAC address and most NICs allow you to change the run-time value anyways. TCP/IP wasn't designed just for Ethernet wires, and Ethernet wasn't designed just for TCP/IP traffic. Besides, any good hacker knows how to spoof his address in the frame data
Of course any system can be defeated, given the skill and effort. But, I'd note that "good" hackers have better things to do with their time than troll an internet BBS.
Russ, NCNE
I was actually addressing the second part of your post.
True, dialupers have no MAC address, but that's not relevant anyway. They have an IP address. Even when that IP address is dynamic, it is a simple matter, when necessary (unlikely here) to ban the entire range assigned to the ISP. Problem eliminated.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>blocking the entire range would only hurt legitimate users IMHO. >>
Crito,
On the surface, that would seem to be true. In reality, it's not. Eliminating the undesirables creates a more pleasant and productive environment for the "legitimate" users. See my earlier post about a forum that has already done it.
As I said, though, at a forum this small and quiet, it's really not a consideration anyway.
Russ, NCNE
That said, like many folks I have three comptuers. I could establish and ID for each of them and all of this IP discussion goes away. One is a laptop and the other two are at different locations.
Nothing is foolproof, but we do not suffer fools gladly here so I am hoping the past method will remain sufficient for the future.
<< <i>Their board is completely dead now and the trouble makers came back anyways. >>
Crito,
Again, I would refer you to my earlier post. Since blocking AOL, that forum has grown five-fold.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>That said, like many folks I have three comptuers. I could establish and ID for each of them and all of this IP discussion goes away. >>
DeepCoin,
I have 10 systems. Ban my IP address block, and I could have a different handle setup on each, and still would not be able to post. The number of computers one has access too isn't an issue.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Is anyone here disappointed we've not heard from Carol? >>
Disappointed, or not surprised?
I'd submit that the question could certainly have been posed with a great deal more diplomacy and tact than:
<< <i>Collectors Universe need to get off of their DEAD REARS and cancel the multiple identities >>
With your inimitable style, and "personality-plus" approach - what sort of response would a rational person expect?
Perhaps an approach that recognized that you're getting the bandwidth free, and that the administrator is a human being, with other concerns and duties than meeting your every whim, you may just meet with a more favorable response, IMHO.
I agree with the precept, but the approach leaves alot to be desired.
I've been in Boston for a card show. I got in around 4:30 last night and I'm playing catch up with everything on my desk.
Personally, I would like to see the disappearance of duplicate id's. For the most part, they don't serve a useful purpose.
Most of IP addresses I have wanted to block were AOL and by doing so it would wipe out quite a large percentage of members that haven't done anything wrong.
We do our best to catch those we can but if someone wants to keep getting new e-mail addresses and sign up using fake names, there isn't much we can do.
Also, if you are experiencing problems, and haven't seen me online for awhile, contact the other admin his name in real life and on the boards is Charlie.
Carol
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gemtone65, the fact that I didn't address a question you asked could mean one of many things. The most likely being that I didn't even see it. I don't read every thread. I don't read every message in a thread. I frequently don't even read threads after I have posted to them. Perhaps I had nothing to add?
Who is Powderpuff2 and why do I care? Is he a shill? I don't care about shills unless they try to run me up, which is hard considering I snipe. That's my personal opinion based on my views of economics and efficient marketplaces. Others will interpret this differently. So be it!
On the US coin forum I have posted under 2 IDs. This "gmarguli" ID and the "Greg" ID. I bet I've made less than 5 posts with the "Greg" ID and those were made using my real name for all to see.
Are you asking if I am also Coingame2000? No. I believe his name is Mike De Falco. I am no one here but gmarguli. I have no need to be anyone other than me here.
As for reasons why someone would want/need more than 1 ID. Perhaps they have something important to post, but don't have the courage to post it under their real name. Perhaps they want to get information out on something, but can't under their real name because the person who told them the info would be upset. Perhaps they are a grader at PCGS and don't want people to know it (this is true here!). Perhaps they want one to post serious stuff in the coin forums, but another for insane stuff in the Open Forum? I've held back *useful* information to these forums because I knew if I posted it under this ID the people who told me would get pissed and I would get no more information from them. I'm sure the forums would have benefited from this information. Others might have posted this info under an alt ID. However, I've always held the belief that if I won't put my name to the information, then I shouldn't post it. Others might feel differently.
<< <i>I bet I've made less than 5 posts with the "Greg" ID >>
The precise total is one.
Russ, NCNE
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