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Are coin collectors too sensitive?

I have not been a part of this group long, since about August 2002, but it appears to me so many on here are too sensitive about others opinions on their coins, collections, price paid / sold, bids, slabs, etc.

The egos in this hobby are way too large. Ironically the industry almost strokes it with their pedigree nonsense, arcane lingo, fascade of integrity, etc. Fortunately, the bulk of collectors are oblivious to all this silliness. I know many collectors who have never heard of slabbed coins nor bought a coin in decades but I can assure you their collections would bring in the auction house buyers flying in like vultures.

Interestingly, many are not offended by non collectors who think our hobby is silly. But when someone slams our interest in 18th century MS70 coins from Afghanistan, look out. There will be a pissing match on the forum!

If someone will not let you bid on their coins, their loss. If someone is asking too much for their coins, find another seller. If someone will not buy your coins, find another buyer. Is it that difficult? OK, so your ego may be hurt but I can think of worse things in life.

I collect other items and belong to collector groups but none rival the whining and back biting that exists here. It does get tedious at times. I find this somewhat sad because many here have important knowledge / experience to share and I have learned alot in a few months.

Coin collecting is a hobby, it is not what we are judged by! Hopefully the people we care about judge us by our character.

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  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    Couldn't have said it better!

    THANKS!
    Steve

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Not only are we thin skinned, I dont think some of us

    have any skin at all.image
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    18th century MS70 coins from Afghanistan are all usually overgraded. image
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    There has to be some ego involved for people to spend thousands on a coin.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I only like toned coins that are blast white.image
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Claw, I see Jayne is looking saucy as ever tonight.image
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    She's also an icon now, from the other day when we could upload our own.
  • Its funny what makes the world go around in peoples eyes isn't it?

    Yes, those of us w/big egos (and yes, I admit to having one) just can't live our lives without chiming in on some issue we have no relationship to. Having something written that goes out to hundreds or even thousands of readers really is a power rush. My guess is by commenting on these boards its the only way most people will ever feel important. It is pathetic, but thats life.

    Maybe someone who has a degree in Psychology can explain the reason for all the negativity that gets written-especially when the writers are not involved in the situation.

    Laura Sperber
    lsperber1@hotmail.com

    Laura Sperber


    JUST SAY NO TO WANNABES! They lurk and prey on unwitting collectors in chatrooms!
  • Dheath!

    You said:

    18th century MS70 coins from Afghanistan are all usually overgraded

    That does it! You and me, outside! We are going to settle this once and for all! image

    Would you hit an old man?
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Its called empowerment behind a cyber shield. Courage in a world of shadows.

    Rage without consequences.
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  • Take a stroll on over to either The Dark Side or the Currency forum. There isn't the problems over there that there are over on the US and registry boards.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Gee, its nice to know that all of us loony toons are all in one or two places.

    I guess that will keep the world sane.
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DHeath:

    Have Been Laughing for 5 Minutes. Way Funny !!
  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    I have to admit,being one of this group has actually given me some calm.I don't think I've been upset but once in 2 years.Thanks for your kind words.image
    Don
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    image
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor


  • << <i>There has to be some ego involved for people to spend thousands on a coin. >>



    Actually, I think that I am an egomaniac with an inferiority complex.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Actually being a Kleptomaniac might be more beneficial

    to a coin collector my pharmacist compadre. Bear(The old Thrifty Drug RX)
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  • Bear,

    I thought that us pharmacists were a part of the most trusted profession. We could never be kleptomaniacs. However, I have never met a pharmacist yet who isn't maybe just a tad neurotic.
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    All day long I cuss & yell at & generally babysit big ugly mean roguey men, most with criminal records who would just as soon as slit my throat as look at me. Right now we got one man in the state pen, one in the county jail and one in the city lockup and one more that's going to be if the cops ever catch him and a new guy that's on parole but still acts like a thug back in the big house. He actually grabbed my Honeybun one day at break time. And those are the nice guys! The ones I have to watch are the ones that have been out for a while and no longer have the threat of parole or probation to keep them in line. Whoever is the baddest gets the respect and I can make these guys jump through hoops. When I holler they jump and ask "How high?" while they are in the air.

    I'm a serious collector but I don't take everything here seriously, I just have fun. Maybe that's why I go into the flame threads poking fun at both sides and everybody else.

    But I am a sensitive type of guy at heart and if you don't like my collection of Sample Slabs I'll bounce you on your pointy head! image
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Gee Big Doggy - I never knew just how sensetive a guy you were. Bearimage
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I cried when Ol Yeller died.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I felt the very same when Bambis Mom got hers.
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Nope, not this one, my wife tells me once a week that I need to be more sensitive.
  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    I am having a glass of wine with smoked guada and thinking about the high grade mercury dimes
    that will arrive tommorrow after I get back from work. One has to be passionate to collect coins.
    People who are interested in history, grading, and are numbers oriented, are not passive. We are
    a sensitive bunch.

    Brian.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I knew early on this thread was going to turn into a slam of high grade
    Afghani coins from the 18th century. Can't we all just get along?
    Tempus fugit.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,970 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I cried when Ol Yeller died. >>



    Old Yeller died?!!?

    My mom made me leave the room right before the ending but she later told me everyone lived happily ever after. Dang.

    Ok, now I'm depressed.

    peacockcoins



  • Coin collecting is a hobby, it is not what we are judged by! Hopefully the people we care about judge us by our character. >>




    Coin Collecting is not a hobby for many here, it is their bread and butter, thats the problem!
    You can fool man but you can't fool God! He knows why you do what you do!


  • << <i>Maybe someone who has a degree in Psychology can explain the reason for all the negativity that gets written-especially when the writers are not involved in the situation. >>



    I've always wondered what happens when (and if) the belligerents in these posts meet? Insults and accusations face to face? Punches thrown? A "Brawl on the Bourse"? It would be interesting to learn what happens. Has anyone here actually met the object of their disdain from these forums?

    Inquiring minds want to know.... image

    Andy
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey WSM

    you better watch out. you start making statements like that and you'll really get the crowd going. they do hate to hear the truth, ya know!! image

    al h.image
  • Don Heath doesn't know diddly about Afghan coins!!! image

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  • FC57Coins,

    You know that's a fake! Someone has tampered with that holder.

    I checked the ACG website and that slab number is for a 1933 $20 MS70. image




    BTW that's U.S. $20 !
  • GilbertGilbert Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭
    DesertLizard,

    I can't say whether "coin collectors" are too sensitive or not. I believe that people in general are either too sensitive or insensitive.

    I also think that you probably see the agressiveness/defensiveness in this forum more, because unlike other collectibles, US Coins are somewhat limited in variety compared to other collectibles. What I'm trying to say is, most coins can be directly compared among collectors, whereas porcelin, teddy bears, whatever don't lend themselves to having to be identical. The more variety of like specimens, the less you can compare mine to yours. For example, my 1885CC in XX grade SHOULD exhibit specific qualities and can be directly compared to someone else's of the same specifications, whereas, my diecast Rolls Royce Silvercloud, or my "Steiff" teddy bear, or this particular gemstone, and on and on are less likely to be identical. Inviduality and variety and sentimentality is the norm and so there is less credence to direct comparison.

    I think you would find that the same personalities that you may find obnoxious (my word) in this forum, would be the same whether you are talking about collectibles or relationships.
    Gilbert
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I believe if all the combatants were to meet at a show,

    they would all have a great time and probably

    go to lunch together. Most of us are a heck of a lot nicer

    in person then our cyber personna i suspect. Gosh, I certainly

    hope so or we got a bunch of miserable sidewinders on this here Forum.

    Marshall Bear image
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭
    Whoa dude, you are way too sensitive!!!image mdwoods
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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    How DARE you insinuate that we're too sensitive, you #$@&amp;X@!!!!!!!!!!!


    He actually grabbed my Honeybun one day at break time. And those are the nice guys!

    That's why I never bring my wife to work.
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  • sensitivity classes are now be offered on Sunday nights and I have heard that there will be a great line up of teachers - sign up at the front office. imageimage
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Hey, Im sensetive, I rub my paw pads with sandpaper

    every single morning. Bear
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  • Bear I hear you will be the key note speaker at the class. We all know bears are sensitive
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    I have been asked to teach the section called "Aloofness On-Line", and have gladly accepted, 'cause I'm a nice guy, too. However, I won't be showing up on Sundays, 'cause, truthfully, I feel that it's beneath me. image
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Registry - Now how could anything be beneath you?image
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  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    I've met alot of people from this board. All nice people.

    I think I may have seen Cobb at a Long Beach show once. I'm pretty sure that was him passing by our table and checking us out.
    Matt
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Laura,

    I think what you are seeing is the sad fact that many people find it easier to tell someone else that he or she is full of **** rather than say something positive about themselves.

    Personally, in no particular order, I like speaking foreign languages, travelling to Latin America, long distance running and coin collecting. If others like it, fine. If they don't like it, that's fine too.

    In general, I'm very tolerant of things that don't affect me personally. I'm not very sensitive, though.
    While this has its downside, it has kept me from doing a number of stupid things over the years.
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    "Seu cabra da peste,
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  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    i do not think sensitive is the word i think more like acting like a big baby and with a large does of greed and deception

    sincerely michael
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭

    Dog, do you work at PCGS?

    I think people can get upset if they have paid thousands for this or that and they are trying to sell. Profits are at stake if someone badmouths coin x and promotes coin y. If I am selling my colorized Liberian commemoratives, I'll be launching a publicity campaign to create demand. I will defend the reputation of my fine product in an effort to protect past investments and future profits.

    Not that there is anything wrong with colorized Liberian commemoratives.... image

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