I would run not walk away from the seller of the flying cent.
He sells alot of PCI, ACG,NTC junk. All way way over graded. His images are often small or blurry. There is a reason.
I asked about one auction and he told me the coin was spotted but nowhere in the description did it say so. On another he said it had a rim nick, also not imaged properly nor described. Be very careful!
I'd be suspect on both coins - I would NEVER pay $2000+ for an ACG coin unless I held it in my hand and got several opinions on it. Kinda like buying raw.
The SLQ might not be a new coin, and very likely been dipped. The FE color is not right (from the photo). I don't believe PCGS will grade any one of the two coins.
The local dealer where I do some trading suggested to shy away from at AGC coins it's a one man show (one man determines the grade, and authentisity, and puts it in a holder--it is not a consensus grade).
The Flying Eagle looks good but dark... A coin of that value should be looked at in person.
Can you return the coin if you don't like it?
Tony
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
SOmehow I get the feel that level of blurriness is hiding wear and blotchy toning on the SLQ. I'm sure anyone who knows coins would have that in a respectable holder if it would get a respectable grade!
<< <i>I'd be suspect on both coins - I would NEVER pay $2000+ for an ACG coin unless I held it in my hand and got several opinions on it. Kinda like buying raw. >>
Well, to be fair, a coin offered raw might actually be accurately graded and offered at a fair price. But if it's in an ACG holder, chances are that it's badly overgraded and/or damaged in some way.
Anyone who sells ACG coins on ebay is someone I would avoid like the plague.
I too would run from ACG coins. I don't understand why sellers with supposedly great coins have such terrible images of the coins. Well, maybe I do know why -- because better images would show that the coins aren't so great. I don't think anitacoin can be trusted. Just my opinion. If you got ACG slabs, crack `em.
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From the picture and description, I can't make heads or tails about this coin. When a seller is not too forthcoming in his auction, I'll send an email asking for further details. It's very important to find out if the seller is honest and knowledgeable about what he is selling. Remember that he’s already had one chance to sell himself, by asking questions and seeking answers that are relevant to the quality of coin your after will eventually land you the coin you want.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
Why would anyone send this to ACG to get slabbed? Because it will get a higher grade than any other service will give it thus resulting in more $$ when the greedy dealer finds some newbie that pays full retail for it because he had heard that to not get ripped off he should buy coins in slabs.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
The picture of the quarter is blury to cover up the fact that the coin is probably an EF-AU with possible AT.
The Flying Eagle is very sharply struck, but if it is as toned and dull as it is in the picture, there's no way it's anywhere near MS-66. I'd say MS-62 or 63 at best, which means its worth $250 to $500 depending on how much luster there is under the toning. These coins have either got to have light toning with a lot of luster showing through it or be the original white color with luster to qualify as an MS-64 or higher. Dull won't cut it. To put things in context, I sold a very nice 1958 large letter variety in PCGS MS-64 for $1,200 a few months ago.
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He sells alot of PCI, ACG,NTC junk. All way way over graded. His images are often small or blurry. There is a reason.
I asked about one auction and he told me the coin was spotted but nowhere in the description did it say so. On another he said it had a rim nick, also not imaged properly nor described. Be very careful!
I no longer even look at his auctions.
Frank
The SLQ might not be a new coin, and very likely been dipped. The FE color is not right (from the photo). I don't believe PCGS will grade any one of the two coins.
The Flying Eagle looks good but dark... A coin of that value should be looked at in person.
Can you return the coin if you don't like it?
Tony
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
<< <i>I'd be suspect on both coins - I would NEVER pay $2000+ for an ACG coin unless I held it in my hand and got several opinions on it. Kinda like buying raw. >>
Well, to be fair, a coin offered raw might actually be accurately graded and offered at a fair price. But if it's in an ACG holder, chances are that it's badly overgraded and/or damaged in some way.
Anyone who sells ACG coins on ebay is someone I would avoid like the plague.
Jeremy
From the picture and description, I can't make heads or tails about this coin. When a seller is not too forthcoming in his auction, I'll send an email asking for further details. It's very important to find out if the seller is honest and knowledgeable about what he is selling. Remember that he’s already had one chance to sell himself, by asking questions and seeking answers that are relevant to the quality of coin your after will eventually land you the coin you want.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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Because it will get a higher grade than any other service will give it thus resulting in more $$ when the greedy dealer finds some newbie that pays full retail for it because he had heard that to not get ripped off he should buy coins in slabs.
<< <i>Why would anyone send this to ACG to get slabbed? >>
to get a 2d opinion. that's why a coin gets sent to any grading svc. whether or not someone agrees w/ the opinion is another issue.
K S
It LOOKS like a SLQ, but it may be something else
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The Flying Eagle is very sharply struck, but if it is as toned and dull as it is in the picture, there's no way it's anywhere near MS-66. I'd say MS-62 or 63 at best, which means its worth $250 to $500 depending on how much luster there is under the toning. These coins have either got to have light toning with a lot of luster showing through it or be the original white color with luster to qualify as an MS-64 or higher. Dull won't cut it. To put things in context, I sold a very nice 1958 large letter variety in PCGS MS-64 for $1,200 a few months ago.