Does this morgan look natural toned?

Placid

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KlectorKid

im not sure it doesnt look very natural but i could be

littlewicher

I don't think that I've ever seen that toning pattern before. The thing that worries me is how abrupt the red ends with the blue.

hookedoncoins

I dont' think it is natural either, however when I checked out some of the other auctions that seller is running, I saw some strange toning patterns in PCGS holders.

-Jarrett Roberts

prooflike

Looks AT to me, I don't like the abrupt color changes and the way the color flow over the letters and fills them. I also don;t like the circular color voids, like where a drop of water may have been.

Graham

The toning could be real, but the scan?...Looks a little tweeked.

FC57Coins

Placid - I think the toning has a shot, however is it only on the reverse? Maybe you can write to the seller.

Frank

Placid

Thanks for the feedback all.
Seems like a split decision.
I think I will just look for a different one.

Dog97

It looks like something that developed in a kraft envelope. It depends on where you draw the line between AT/original. If you are asking if it will slab at PCGS-since it doesn't look like accepted bag or album tone I would say I would say no.

Placid

Looks like pcgs didn't care in the early day's.
This one is in a old rattler holder.
I guess if you were to send it in for reholder it would be ok. The graders don't even look at a coin for reholder do they?



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Dog97

The PCGS coin you posted looks real enough but the one at the top looks funky. It's in an ICG holder who in my opinions slabs some coins that PCGS would NG.

barney

Since we're on the subject of toned reverses, here's one that PCGS (white label) OK'd... YES, this is THE coin that raised such a ruckus...hope you enjoy
the pic, though it does not do full justice to the Morgan...

dragon

Barney,

Is that the toned 1886-P in PCGS MS64 you got from Aspen Park for over $3000.00 that you brought up in a different thread recently?

Dragon

oldcameoproofsguy

The thing about the toning that would make me cautious are the white spots scattered about the coin. When a coin is exposed to a sulfer compound it will leave white spots a lot like what is seen here. However, what makes this a difficult call is that the toning is even around the lettering and devices which usually does not happen when a sulfer agent is used.

Scans are tough in evaluating toning; it is really difficult to see how the toning sits on the coin, if it is deep or shallow.

dorkkarl

looks like the typical AT that any slabbing company would accept.

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Outhaul

I bid on this guy's auctions awhile back. I had to send every coin back. The color is much more intense in the scans than in person. Not sure if he enhanced the color on the scans. I was really disappointed. However, he was very responsive in refunding my money.

Cheers,

Bob

toners

Would like to see the other side, but looks AT to me, could possibly be envelope toning but very questionable.
Allen

Dog97

And another thing.......the ICG coin is for sale by Bondman so there's no telling what the coin actually looks like.

gemtone65

The Bondman and his coins have been discussed many times on this forum. I have seen many of his dollars in person, and in fact purchased the one of the first (and best) coin he ever sold on E-bay. I can attest that all of the pieces seen 1) are naturally toned, and 2) look nothing like the scans. His claims about the coins are as overstated as his scans.

Morganluver

The color is definately natural but the scans are enhanced IMO. Been there done that with this seller but won't do it again.

RotatedRainbows

Should have figured it would be the "infamous" tweeker. I have yet to hear a single positive comment from anybody who has dealt with him, about the only constant is that his coins never look like the scans.