An observation about PCGS/NGC DCAM Ike dollars

wingedliberty

I noticed something today which I have never given enough attention to, and I thought I would
share it.

I am also a collector of CAM/DCAM proofs ,( as are many members within this forum).90% of what I have are CAMS/DCAMS Franklins/ Kennedy halves, Washingtons and Lincolns. To date, I have never purchased a CAM/DCAM Ike. (Until today!!!).You know , when something new hits you, and you think: "This is cool!!". Thats how I felt today.I purchased three PCGS/NGC DCAM Ikes. They came in the mail today and were spectacular. I guessI never paid close attention to them or added any to my collection to notice how awesome and breathtaking they are. I guess , since the coin has a larger overall area and bigger fields, the contrast effect is more immpressive. I recommend these highly. Has anyone else experienced this aftertwenty years of collecting or a similar experience with this or any other series in a different state of preservation. ( I think the effect of DCAM silver eagles is a little different. They seem smaller in size,but I know its only an illusion).

Brian.

Russ

Supercoin will love you.

Russ, NCNE

wingedliberty

Russ,
I dont have a Ike DCAM scan, maybe you can share a good example with the
forum.


Brian

DHeath

Me too. The moon/eagle reverse looks great in dcam, but I'll tell you now, if you like those, you'll also be a sucker for the MS silver issues. That is a great looking dollar in silver. It looks the way a modern silver coin should, and compares in appearance quite favorably to the Peace dollars (hey, Ike's pretty ugly, but the coin is nice). They are far nicer than the small dollars, and truly are collectible. It is my third favorite modern series (Kennedys, Jeffs, Ikes).

wingedliberty

Don:
I agree the reverse on the Ike is alot more attractive than the obverse.

Brian.

Russ

wingedliberty,

I don't have any Ike's. I prefer Presidents with hair.

Russ, NCNE

wingedliberty

Russ:
I heard that you prefer presidents with accented hair only.


Brian.

michael

yes i experienced this with a monster deep cameo proof trade dollar some years ago the coin stood out as it is one of the only us issue coins with huge open fields on the obverse so it makes a statement in deep cameo

and the eagle on the reverse really stands out in monster deep cameo

and to me a monster deep cameo is a coin that is super deeply mirrored with super duper deep frosted devices

the above coin had deeper mirrors and was more frosted than any proof silver american eagle and with the open fields like i said above really made an impression on me

i remembering asking the price and i almost passed out technically not the highest graded by far but the deepest mirrored forstiest example i have ever seen bar none!

from the charactistics of the coin it was almost certainly one of the first dtrikes off a new die paring if not the first strike

worms (lintmarks)on baoth far outer edges in the stars from polishing of the die a full strike which is rare even for this dated proof coin! full hair detail full stars everything 100% crisp full strike also slight grease in the die of the right outer eagles wing causing a slight mark on the wing but totally accpetable and small not really notiiceable

also the coin was so unbeileveable if not slabbed it would not look real to most it is real but you would look at the coin and say is this a modern silver repro from liberia? also during early 80's pre certification days it would have sold for lots more money then today as many would have graded it ultra superb gem proof plus !!

it was totally blast white and with absolutely no haze cloudiness spots in the mirrors just like a brand new just off the press silver proof american eagle but with the trade having deeper mirrors

i would bet it is the finest deepest mirrored white frostist trade in existance

i know that one major dealer looked at it currently the last three or four months and said that it was the finest in terms of deepest mirrors and frost that he had ever seen!


now i have never seen a proof ike but i think i would love the ike proofs deep cameo monster deep cameo with deep frost and mirrors

and also do the deep cameo ikes in silver look better than the copper nickel in deep cameo? i assume there must be a difference in the look of a deep cameo copper nickel vs. a silver coin?? anyone have any idea?


sincerely michael

braddick

Just wait until you see one with DCAM surfaces that is also peac 0ck toned.

FrattLaw

Ah, another joins the fold. I really got suckered by these coins as well. Just love those DCAMs. Now I am collecting bullseye toned silver Ikes that are also DCAM. The toning is faint but very beautiful in the right light and with the DCAM is just stunning.

Ikes are like peanuts, just can't have one.

Michael

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MW Fattorosi Collection

Eisenhower Proofs
SBA Proofs
Sac Proofs

supercoin

wingedliberty, here's one about as DCAM as they come:



And here's one like FrattLaw would probably like:



Ya gotta like big bad bald boy Ike!

FrattLaw

Is that a small 4-Sale sign I see planted in the lunar soil near where the eagle is landing Supercoin? Or is it that American flag?

Saw a 72 Silver proof toned ike that Texas Bullion/ Brian had at the Long Beach show today. Just stunning, I almost can't believe that it's not AT. It was amazing. Toned ikes I think are under appreciated! The last naturally toned circulating coin that has beautiful vibrant colors. Rainbowed toned Morgans are a dime a dozen. Toned Ikes are a far rarer breed!


Michael

supercoin

You're misreading the symbolism -- note how the Eagle is tightly clutching the olive branch -- i.e. not for sale.

The 74-S is common to find with interesting colors still in the gov't holder. That's a common coloration, though more nicely painted than most.

Some of the most dramatic toned Ikes are those from the "Peacock Hoard". Here's one I've posted in the past:

NoviceKris

WingLiberty, et al.

I just got my first 1976 Proof DCAM (in PCGS) Ike and it is really amazing to me. I have a load of raw Ikes, which I love, but wow, the DCAM is really impressive. I am hoping to get all the Ikes done in DCAM eventually. Until we get the Reagan Silver Dollar (okay, nobody has ever considered this but me) the Ike is the last really good dollar coin. IMHO. Kris.

wingedliberty

I guess I am not the only one who experienced amazement with these coins. I am glad I am not
alone., and to Supercoin's scans, all is can say is "Holy Cow!!!, and Wow!"

Brian.

FrattLaw

Supercoin - I have to start somewhere, can't afford the "Pea**** Hoard" and I like the 74's in goverment holders, my plan is purchase every last one and create a "new" Bullseye Hoard. At $6.00 a piece, it shouldn't be that expensive. I'm also buying any and all 71s, 72s & 73s that I can find nicely toned. Those years are just so much harder.

All in all, its a nice cheap collection of naturally toned coins. I have no idea if there's even a buyer for them besides me. No one at Long Beach was even looking at the brown ikes - more for me

FYI - the forum would let me post the word following Pea____, it said it was a prohibited word? Anybody even have this happen to them?

Michael

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MW Fattorosi Collection

Eisenhower Proofs
SBA Proofs
Sac Proofs

cladking

Oh yeah. Then it blows away the entire post.

Tade

Wow! I actually have coins that other forum members have. So proud to have PCGS DCAM PR68 of Ike, both Type 1 and Type 2. Of course I checked what I paid, each $26.50, and they are listed with a value of $15.00 and $19.00. There, that seperates me from the seasoned forum member.

1976 Ikes without the Space Program Eagle which he did not support.

Clankeye

Frattlaw--
Yes, I learned the same about the forum censors when I tried to write the name Wild Bill Hick*ock. Isn't that a scream?

Brain---
That's great about the Ikes. It's very neat when all of a sudden the meter goes off and you start appreciating certain coins and series that were right under your nose the whole time. This has happened to me. Right now it's kind of happening with Lincoln cents. Wish I was in Long Beach right now... so much to see, see much fun.

FrattLaw

Supercoin must be blessed by the PCGS Forum Gods - he gets to use the dirty words in his posts. I still don't get that.

Michael

supercoin

FrattLaw, you're right about the 1974 silver proofs being the easiest to find toned in the Gov't package. And it's fun finding them for $6.00.

I've yet to hear a good explanation for why the 1974's are found toned so much more often, my guess is a change in some of the plastic composition of the gov't holder.

Here's a "mossy green" variation:



And a typical "hazy" pattern, but with some color to it: