Your opinions on the grade of this two cent piece please.

Russ

Got another one in today:



I'm thinking EF40. Am I way off or close?

Russ, NCNE

LanLord

I'm not an expert on these, but I was thinking vf. What is after the 2 (over the s in cents)? Is that a period or is it only on my screen?
edited to add, I was thinking vf rather that ef because the WE looks a bit weak.

Russ

Lanlord,

According the PCGS's grading bible, a little weakness is allowed on WE for the EF grade. Actually, what it says is that the WE will have "noticeable wear". Of course, I sometimes wonder if they pay any attention to their own book. The thing over the S is a ding that, for some reason, the scanner made look like a bump and more prominent than it actually is.

Russ, NCNE

FC57Coins

Russ:

the detail on the WE is going to sway the grade one way or the other between VF and XF - I always thought you had to have a pretty strong WE to get into XF but I might be wrong.

Frank

Placid

I will guess 40.
One thing I see that I find interesting if it isn't a photo thing is I can clearly see a 1 above the date and to the left.

zenny

Russ
i'm afraid that you are eventually going to find yourself with a bunch of these strange coins that have no picture of JFK. you will have a stamp made and start counterstamping a recognizable portrait onto these things.






if it isn't already happening.



looks vf close to ef to me.

Placid

Maybe someone withh a book on these could tell you if it's a known variety.
I tried looking online and found this info but I can't understand it.

info

If i had to guess I would say it matches the 1865 Fancy 5 DmgD- damaged D (on all coins below)
1865 Fnc5 TriplDate first 18 high.
Damaged D, D of UNITED lacks upper serif.

Russ

Placid,

It's a scanner artifact that magnified a ding. You got me all excited for a minute.

Russ, NCNE

CLASSICS

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russ, it looks closer to a vf

Placid

A scanner artifact? Sure looks like a 1 to me it even appears raised, stupid photos.
Oh well.. still looks like a fancy 5 damaged D version to me. No idea if they are rare.

BillJones

The classic grade would be VF-30. Today this coin is at least a EF-40 if it's in a slab. The "WE" can be missing thess days, and these coins get called Fine or even VF. I guess that's what is know as grade inflation.

There is a chance that this coin really is an EF-40 if the "WE" is weakly struck and the rest of coin qualifies for the grade. I'd have to see it in person to confirt that however.

coynclecter

I've collected a lot of 2 cent pieces. There is a good book out on them which identifies a ton of varieties non of which are particularly rare or valuable.(Myron Kliman)

The "WE" can often be close to flat due to strike. The ribbon is important too. There's too much wear here, I would not grade either of these as XF.

Coyn

dorkkarl

XF-ish in my book.

K S