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terrific coin-world issue, everyone should read it

9/16/02 issue of coin-world. terrific issue, 1 of the best in recent memory, and i've been a subscriber for 20 years.

1 page one, check out the article on "note doctoring". absolutely outstanding, and virtually 100% applicable to coins, if you just substitute the word "coin" for "note" throughout. of most critical interest, where peter huntoon admits to situations where a note is better off being "processed". i analogize it to repairing scratched and holed coins.

2 also check out page 76, more on the subject.

3 stunned to see the ad on "cracking coins out of slabs". savored every minute of reading it, page 16. haven't always been coin-world's staunchest supporter, but like i said, i do subscribe, and my appreciation zoomed up 300% after this article

4 most ludicrous article (the subject, not the article itself): page 2 about the "survey". incredibly stupid survey if you ask me, for 2 reasons, #1, it is exclusive to png dealers, who's official svc is pcgs. gee, whaddya think the chances are that none of the other svc.s had a fair chance? #2, it makes no comparison whatsoever to sight-seen raw purchases.

hey coin-world dudes, keep up the good work, you earned my subscription $ on this one issue alone!

K S

Comments

  • Does that issue have an ad for Angel Dee's? Wanted to check out some of their latest inventory...
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    negative.

    K S
  • MrLeeMrLee Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1 of the best in recent memory, and i've been a subscriber for 20 years. >>



    Wouldn't you know it. It's the first one I've gotten in twenty years. Does this mean it's all down hill from here?

    I agree dorkkarl. It's a very impressive and interesting issue. Nucklehead sent in a subscription for me a couple of weeks ago and I just received the first issue. I haven't been able to put it down yet. The note doctoring article was very interesting. I also enjoyed the piece on high-denomination notes.(page 38) And I was surprised to find out about the two reverses on the '64 Kennedy halves. (page 78) Yes, an excellent issue.



    PS to Nucklehead. I hope you paid the bill.
  • GilbertGilbert Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭
    If you are talking about the evaluation of grading services, why is a comparison to raw sight-seen purchases pertinent.
    Gilbert
  • I really don't understand the reluctance of the note collectors to openly discuss the problem with note doctoring. The article mentioned that only recently have people been willing to go on record talking about the doctoring. They should have been doing it from day 1 to help keep people from getting burnt. Serial numbers on the notes ought to help big time keeping a lid on the problem.

    Know where I can pick up a genuine 1804 Bust Dollar in the $300 to $350 range?
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you are talking about the evaluation of grading services, why is a comparison to raw sight-seen purchases pertinent >>

    hey gilbert, great question, hopefully my answer will make sense. it's because sight-seen is the "baseline" against which the svc's should be compared. ie. the whole purpose of slabs is supposedly that you can buy coins sight-unseen w/ confidence. however, how would you know if that is true if you have nothing to compare against? that was my point.



    << <i>really don't understand the reluctance of the note collectors to openly discuss the problem with note doctoring. The article mentioned that only recently have people been willing to go on record talking about the doctoring. They should have been doing it from day 1 to help keep people from getting burnt. Serial numbers on the notes ought to help big time keeping a lid on the problem.

    << <i>2-part answer, you already hit 1 of the points. serial #'s as you said should take care of the notes of very significant value, say $10,000 and up, since a definitive list can easily (time-consuming) be compiled w/ past grading and $ amt. i'm not a paper guy, but suspect repairs are more accepted in paper because of their inherently more-fragile nature. repairing of coins is disproportionately frowned down on. don't know if i've answered your question, but maybe some paper guys will get in on this topic.

    K S
  • I was surprised also that they had a cracking article in the new collectors section. New collectors may read this and try it out with bad results.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    agreed. biggest problem i've had is when the slab shatters and i geta "plastic splinter". those little suckers HURT.

    K S
  • Dorkkarl, you're right about the two articles mentioned. Like Cameron, I thought the crackout article seemed a little strange topic for new collectors. Maybe it should have had a "DO Not Try This At Home" warning label. image
    Buy the coin...but be sure to pay for it.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    forgot to say earlier - i like coin-world a lot. best rag out there for coins right now, imo. however, over the past several years, seems to have taken a definite slant in favor of slabs, rather than being impartial about them.

    still, like i said, coin-world's an overall positive for the hobby

    K S
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    karl, you are correct it was a great issue, the same thoughts entered my mind after reading it.
  • Good Thread Karl,
    Up to date and timely articles for that issue... I expecially enjoyed as Mr. Lee mentioned the article on the first and second types of Kennedy reverses... I had fun with the photos finding another characteristic by drawing lines through the vertical strokes of the two initials and finding type one "lines" converging while the type two "lines" parallel !
    plus I ended up finding a few type ones among a much larger percentage of type twos in my own collection., a plus!
    Both CoinWorld and Numismatic News I find of value..the ladder which includes Ray Sidman's running account of the mintages and sales..plus the latest buzz words..
    Ken
    Ken
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    i just wish coin-prices, coinage & coins weren't worthless these days! remember when breen used to do a column for one of those, i think it was coinage? i think it was called "barbs and bristles", or something like that

    K S
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    ok 2 in a row. the 9/23 followup is superb as well. there is to be a 4th installment, which i am looking forward to. i think i just might make the plunge and pick up some paper money soon. note that the "beginners workshop" is on paper, which told me a lot i did not know.

    lead article on the 1538 8 reales was great also.

    couple of criticisms : the "letters to the editor", one from "mike harper" is idiotic. check it out. also, getting tired of the space wasted for letters about how good/bad the us mint is.

    anyone else thinking of plunging headfirst into paper???

    K S

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