I love this coin
lsica
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God I do love this coin
Gotta love it
Early Gem proof with beyoootiful toning. Every time I see it I start to drool
Gotta love it
Early Gem proof with beyoootiful toning. Every time I see it I start to drool
Philately will get you nowhere....
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You see "a man with breasts"? I only see a beautiful rendition of MISS Liberty, about 18 years old
Tom
<< <i>Early proofs like that just make my mouth water, because you know every piece actually has some sort of history to it ("Oh yes, Prince Wutzyanaim, an example of our beautiful coinage" or "Mr Stickney, if we make ANOTHER damn proof quarter, will you SHUT UP AND LEAVE US ALONE THIS YEAR!!") >>
ANACONDA? ANACONDA- is this you!??
peacockcoins
<< <i>ANACONDA? ANACONDA- is this you!?? >>
Nah, I'm just another numismatist
(Definition: Numismatist: One who reads the books and is a student of collecting but needs to spend his money on diapers and talking Elmo dolls instead of coins )
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peacockcoins
By the way, welcome to the boards! Why don't you tell us a little about yourself?
<< <i>Definition: Numismatist: (One who reads the books and is a student of collecting but needs to spend his money on diapers and talking Elmo dolls instead of coins ) >>
Hey I resemble that remark
By the way...
Welcome to the boards!!!
Take for example this Franklin I recently bought and sent in to PCGS, it came back for artificial color. This is quite simply one of the most gorgeous Franklins I have ever seen.
1959 Toned Franklin
I paid alot of money, I know the coin is a coin, and don't get me wrong, if I could get this into a holder, I know I would easlily double or triple my money, but stuff like this frustrates the heck out of me. If anything my Franklin looks considerable more real to me, than the Bust coin in the auction...the toning on the obverse is only on the center of the coin...I mean how does that happen.
morris <><
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<< <i>Why don't you tell us a little about yourself? >>
Lets see, been a "numismatist" since mid 70's, even bought and sold coins on occasion. But, like most good collectors (instead of investors) I tend to buy high and sell low (oh well). Took a particularly nasty bath as a teenager in the early 80's in silver coins. So, if you try to argue with me that coins are a good investment, I may look at you a bit sideways. But if you want to discuss the beauty and history of a particular piece, you'll often find me in agreement.
no matter what everyone says about this coin It stands alone. and is the finest one known.
welcome to the boards.
rob.
<< <i>Nice toning. Too bad the coin design looks like a man with breasts. >>
gmarguli,
Whats wrong with a man with breasts? They don't call me Bustman for nothing!
<< <i>why is that coins with that type of toning on older type coinage...ie bust or seated stuff, can be considered real and not at, but if a Franklin or Washington or even a Morgan with that same exact toning comes back bb for artificial color >>
ALL coins with wild-n-crazy colors are artificialy toned, including this quarter. it is not "real" toning. just a minor point, your question is well-understood. "natural" toning for silver would be dull, unattractive grey.
in general, coins that acquire that kind of toning were cleaned first, thus making the surfaces more susceptible to reaction w/ the holder, presumably paper or cardboard.
K S
adrian
I don't know what you use for a definition of "artificially toned" but I must take issue with the accuracy of your comment : "ALL coins with wild-n-crazy colors are artificialy toned, including this quarter. it is not "real" toning. just a minor point, your question is well-understood. "natural" toning for silver would be dull, unattractive grey".
There are plenty of coins which have resided in name collections for decades which, according to the majority of experts, are naturally toned and in many colors other than "unattractiuve grey". If you choose to call toning artificial, when it is the result of long term storage in albums, coin chests or original mint (or government) envelopes, then go ahead. I have seen original proof sets from the 19th and 20th century, in the original mint envelopes with toning that is anything but "artificial" or "unattractive grey". Ditto for older silver commemoratives and mint sets in their original holders.
adrian
morris <><
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Don't take life so seriously...nobody gets out alive.
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It is hard to tell from the scan but is there a die polishing line or a planchet burnishing line at 3:00 on the obverse extending from Liberty's cap to the third star?
Man, I would almost remortgage the house for that one!
Mike.
My Barbers
<< <i>Nice toning. Too bad the coin design looks like a man with breasts. >>
HEY!!! They haven't put Janet Reno on a coin yet have they????
<< <i>There are plenty of coins which have resided in name collections for decades which, according to the majority of experts, are naturally toned and in many colors other than "unattractiuve grey". >>
hey coinguy, here's my thinking. coins toned by being in their "intended" environment (ie circulation) will have original tone, those that enter into "artificial" enviornments will get AT. silver in circulation will essentially always tone to grey.
coins resting in wayte-raymond boards would fall in the category of AT because such boards are not the "natural" environment for coins. but the point you make about coins in gov't paper holders is another story - hadn't really thought about that. i guess that that would have to be considered "original" because the "intended" environment was the gov't packaging. but that "original" toning is pretty danged ugly in a lot of cases.
following this same logic, you'd be correct that proofs in their original tissue paper would have to be considered oriignal as well.
i was not trying to say whether AT is good or bad, because like everything else, it lies in the eye of the beholder. but circulated coins, or those intended for circulation, w/ that colorful toning, i still think ought to be recognized as AT, although collectors may appreciate and even desire it.
maybe i'm way off base again. whaddya think?
K S