As of today, no more W designations from NGC.

DHeath

In the newsletter today, NGC said effective today they would no longer use the W designation for white coins. They sited the lack of collector/dealer interest. Round one to the toners. I do however love their airtite slabs for my copper coins, since ugly toning can't be removed sucessfully. I hope PCGS goes the same way. PCGS has a better looking slab. IMHO. BTW - I noticed alot more parity in pricing of PCGS/NGC coins in the most recent Bowers & Merena catalog. Are we approaching pricing parity? Is it more about the coin when dealing with more expensive pieces? I prefer PCGS for moderns and like their grading standard better for these coins, but it seems both services are on a pretty even footing with classics. Anyone else have an opinion?

PS - I love attractive toning, just not the cruddy kind.

Elcontador

NGC does not know how to grade copper (through IH Cents) and nickel (though Liberty Nickels) coins. If you doubt me, line up 10 MS 65s or higher of a particular series of the same grade in PCGS & NGC holders. You will get an education.

I would agree with you re uncirculated 19th century silver coins. Don't know about the rest (gold & commems).

Trime

In my opinion PCGS and NGC grade similarly on 19th Century silver coins. 19th century nickel coins are harder to grade and I see greater varience in both services. I think I might give a slight advantage to PCGS for 3CN. Grading 1/2 and large cent coppers is another world. Best left to those who will die or kill on the topic.