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How close was Charlotte to minting silver coinage?

savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,366 ✭✭✭✭

I recently ran across this document showing passage within the state legislature

www.brunkauctions.com

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting to see how far their representatives and Senators got, if legislation was ever introduced in Congress.

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    KindaNewishKindaNewish Posts: 830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What an amazing find!

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting, I like

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did the mines produce any appreciable quantity of silver that could be used? Most native gold deposits did contain some silver, the the Mints in 1839 could not part it from the gold cost effectively, and so they just left it in the coinage.

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Did the mines produce any appreciable quantity of silver that could be used? Most native gold deposits did contain some silver, the the Mints in 1839 could not part it from the gold cost effectively, and so they just left it in the coinage.

    I’ve read that the Charlotte and Dahlonega Mints did produce some silver in their refining process. The resulting silver bars were shipped to the Philadelphia Mint.

    I don’t imagine that it was enough silver to make much of a dent in the coin shortage. Foreign coins were still legal tender in the United States in 1839. The first Philadelphia Mint had been woefully inadequate to serve the nation’s needs, and the second Philadelphia Mint was just getting up to the technology of the time with steam driven presses. England had been using them for almost 40 years.

    I don’t imagine that this proposal got very far in Congress. It would have involved shipping silver to Charlotte to supply a small mint which didn’t have that much capacity. Furthermore the Charlotte mint personnel would have needed to step up their game. The Charlotte coins, especially the dollars and $2.50 coins were not that well made. They seemed to have had a hard time calibrating their presses.

    A whole slew of things were involved then, 🤔

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    Greg, I have an UNC roll of seated quarters from Charlotte.
    never opened 🤓

    Is the wrapping made of sheep intestines, perhaps?

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That resolution is proof positive that politicians have always been the most verbose people.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

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    The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the request went through, would Charlotte have been able to strike quarters? If I recall, they were limited in gold coins to the half eagle.

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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,366 ✭✭✭✭

    @The_Dinosaur_Man Charlotte also struck $2.50 gold coins and [ten years later] gold dollars

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    The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @savoyspecial said:
    @The_Dinosaur_Man Charlotte also struck $2.50 gold coins and [ten years later] gold dollars

    They are were also sent dies for $3 gold, at least in 1854 (and maybe in 57 and 61). I was referring to the size of the press accepting a larger diameter coin

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    TestoonTestoon Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    I had wondered if Charlotte and Dahlonega were restricted to gold coinage by law or by Mint policy. I have to admit I never looked up the authorizing act, though. Thanks for posting this!

    Bill
    witty quote goes here

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