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Grading this Carson City is giving me fits - opinions, please

TallahasseeCoinClubTallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 1, 2026 11:05AM in U.S. Coin Forum

The coin is not bent nor damaged in any way that would explain the reverse seeming a full grade lower than the obverse. LIBERTY shows somewhat as you can tell from the photos.... like the equivalent of 4+ letters showing (it is slightly sharper in hand).

Opinions??


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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not good at these but looks like maybe VG8 - VG10 to me.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 1, 2026 11:43AM

    VG10 seems reasonable. There seems to be strong rims and general weakness in the centers. Some might go F12. Seems okay for a type set album if one is seeking a cc.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,904 ✭✭✭✭✭

    maybe it was in a bezel or something protecting the obverse for a stage of it's career

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vg 10 would suit me just fine

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    If you are selling to a dealer VG10.

    If you are buying from a dealer F12 or F15.

    The seller, whether dealer or collector, will value it more highly. So, if you are selling to a dealer, you'll call it F12. If you're buying from a dealer, you'll try to convince him it's only a VG10 (or worse). You'll start by whining about the reverse and then claim it looks cleaned and then throw a low ball number out there.

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  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG and great for an album. A set of twenty cent pieces or Carson City type would welcome this piece.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    seems at least close. no idea why it's off

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS says these are VG...


  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fine


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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FN12 seems fair although I wouldn't be surprised if it holdered as a VG10.

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F-12 here.

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would call it F15. I always like to see a silver coin with an alloy anomaly as can be seen to the left of the mintmark. As of yet, I have not encountered a good explanation as to why those happen.

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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These double dimes cant be graded the same as other seated series because of liberty being raised up not incused so with that said I would consider this to be vf

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG08

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  • TallahasseeCoinClubTallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭

    My thought was that the obverse just barely touches VF-20 while the reverse is maybe Fine. So in my set I am carrying it as Fine-15. Further research suggests there is a Carson City die-marriage for which the reverse is always significantly worse struck than the obverse.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would grade that 1875-CC Twenty Cent piece Fine - 12. Having collected these coins since high school, I can tell you that the 1875-CC is often weak on the reverse. The weakness is usually on the top of the left wing, however. This one is weak on the lower part of the eagle, but the obverse says to me Find-12.

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  • oldglorycoinsoldglorycoins Posts: 274 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @291fifth said:
    If you are selling to a dealer VG10.

    If you are buying from a dealer F12 or F15.

    The seller, whether dealer or collector, will value it more highly. So, if you are selling to a dealer, you'll call it F12. If you're buying from a dealer, you'll try to convince him it's only a VG10 (or worse). You'll start by whining about the reverse and then claim it looks cleaned and then throw a low ball number out there.

    He speaks the truth

  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭

    I say VF20. If the surfaces weren’t so dinged up I’d go 25.
    I own 2 75-cc’s in F and VG, your coin is noticeably more detailed
    Good luck

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F12 vote here.

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F12 was my first thought.

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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with F12

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice circ example, 15 to me.

  • KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 203 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2026 3:27PM

    Easily a VF, 25+/20- to me. 1875-s and cc are known as the weaker strikes of the series. Strike a litl soft on "liberty" and eagle detail. Remember you cannot grade these like other seated coins as the 'LIBERTY' is raised, not incuse. It wears off the coin first as it is high point. I'm 15 and 10 on the two PCGS graded coins. I go by liberty's breast and eagles wings. But, then again I am the most liberal on these among my grading comrades. J.P. Martin

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,952 ✭✭✭✭✭

    15.

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