Seeking Info on a 1794 Copper
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I’m wondering if anyone recognizes this. I’m wondering if it could be a George Washington piece of some type. It’s approximately the size of a half cent. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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I think a UK Conder token, but I don't know enough to nail the type. Try posting in the world coins forum?
So far it’s not a match for any condor token I’m aware of.
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It reminds me very much of a blacksmith token.
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Perhaps a Connecticut Colonial Copper Coin how big is it?
Approximately the size of a half cent.
Definitely not a Connecticut copper, maybe a conder token.
Blacksmiths were never dated
Good point.
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No, ct coppers were made until 1788 🙂👍
Could the date be 1704? The 3rd digit doesn't really look like a 9 to me.
If it's 1704... a Woods Hibernia token??
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1304??
Almost looks like it was cut down from something larger.
A real head scratcher.
What does it weigh?
5.1g
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The picture is a bit unclear, but in hand it’s definitely a 1794
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What more can be made out from the reverse?
I started looking into France Jetons, U.S. colonials including Voce Populi, and contemporary Canadian and Portuguese pieces. There is also part of me that thinks it is a copper medal honoring George Washington's second term/inauguration as President.
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Wood's Hibernias were only made from 1722 to 1724, but the design is wrong anyway.
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Not much. Something in me wants to say "LIBERTY" is the word on the obverse, and "E•PLURIBUS•UNUM" on the reverse. However the only letters that can actually maybe be made out are "L▨B" (obv) and "▨US•" (rev).
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The obverse looks like a bust facing right with 2 bows on the left side.
I can't find a match for those bows.
I was thinking GEORGIUS for the reverse IUS visible, but it usually shows up as IVS on coins of that era.
But GEORGIUS would be on the obverse, not reverse.
hmmmmm perfectly round. is that odd for 1794 copper? and it looks like the tops of the L-B are close to being chopped off
Not really, as even back then the planchets were punched. And if it was struck open collar, letters too near the rim wouldn’t be a huge surprise to me.
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I was checking British coinage and early Canadian tokens, nothing checks the few boxes we have. I believe the portrait is George III, and the reverse is Britannia, or remnants of them.
Starting to think it’s some fantasy piece someone created, by over stamping or doctoring another coin?
I found it!
1794 Italy Piedmont-Sardinia 5 Sol
https://en.numista.com/5136
I was thinking the reverse in particular looked somewhat Roman, but the letters were more modern.
So I did a google search on "Italy 1794 copper coin" and a couple of low grade ebay examples came up which were close matches to the original photos.
It's possible this could have been identified fairly quickly if it had been posted to the World Coins subforum. There are some people there who can identify coins amazingly well.
Well done, @yosclimber !
Impressive work, thank you! I was about ready to send it in to our hosts or ANACS just to see what it was. Many thanks!
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Bingo!
Good job, @yosclimber !
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