2026 ASE-W Proof Coins
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Mint is selling these on Feb. 26 for $173 (up from $95 a week ago).
This morning I saw a “Pre-Sale” ad for these on CNBC. Seller cited a 500,000 mintage.
Just checked the mint’s product page and it says the in stock date is Wednesday, Jan. 21 with an ATS of 299,900
Does this mean 200,000 coins (40%) are available to the Big Boys over a month earlier? Thanks!
(PS. Price for a slabbed 70 was $295 plus S&H plus any sales tax. But the phone call was free.)
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Oh yeah, the ASE-W Proof featuring a Liberty Bell Privy Mark. Thanks for the reminder, I've got a subscription for three, but now can't afford three...time to hit the pause button on the subscriptions. Let the Big Boys have fun selling these! I can hear them now..."Look at this amazing rare privy!"
Could be. Could also be they have not yet manufactured 500K of them, so don't have 500K "ATS" on 2/26. Also, subscriptions likely account for a substantial amount of that difference. Doesn't matter.
All that matters is that the maximum mintage is 500K. The fact that they were selling them on TV, with special attributions and special labels, in PR70, at less than double issue price, should tell you all you need to know about how hot these are actually going to be when they are released. Not at all.
500K is a very healthy mintage, and $173 is a very healthy price. They are not going to be selling 500K at that price. And the TV guys know this. So they want to sell what they can now. Which is why you were also offered quantity discounts. But, no, as bad as the Mint is becoming, Big Boys don't get 40% of anything pre-release.
No. It just means they haven't made 500,000 available yet
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ats: 262,380
edited to add: Even though the mintage limit of 500k is high, I bet the HHL is reduced down from 25 before the sale on the 26th....adds to the excitement, eh?
Why do you think this? The price is high. The mintage is high.
After accounting for subscriptions and Big Boys, a little over half of a significant mintage is available. Why do you think the HHL will be reduced, or even that they might sell out within a day after the HHL is lifted? I don't.
I'd also bet at least a third of the subscribers aren't even aware these will be priced at $173 instead of $95 and would cancel or pause their subscription if they did.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I think if the Mint reduces the HHL, it will stir excitement for the product, make it more sought after.
I'm sure this issue will be quite popular, even considering the high price and Mintage limit.
Just a pure marketing play on my thought process.
I don't see how that is a marketing play. The only way to stir demand is to get a quick sellout. Most people don't buy 10 of these so dropping the HHL won't entice anyone.
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If it’s a marketing play they need more practice to be better. If it’s a marketing ploy—um, I think that as a group within an institution, the marketing folks are unable to hatch a decent scheme.
TBD, but I don't see it. People aren't going to care about the HHL when they are easily available. And the HHL will be "None" 24 hours after release, which is going to be in less than 3 weeks.
It's not a marketing ploy. And, it's not going to happen.
HHLs are never used to stimulate demand. Because they wouldn't.
Their sole purpose is to try to facilitate more wide distribution when demand is organically high relative to supply. As with the Congratulations set, when they reduced it from 3 to 1, and subscriptions are still for the most part unavailable.
They are not going to do anything with this one, with ATS above 200K AFTER subscriptions with the current HHL, plus Big Boy orders, are accounted for.
And, trust me, these won't sell out in the first 24 hours, and there will be HHL thereafter. So the whole discussion is moot.
Today’s ATS for the bulk buyers is 30,020 (at $181.65 when silver is under $80)
Making a profit could be difficult.
They don't buy them to melt them.
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This ^^^. They will go into Advance Release slabs, and be retailed for $300+. $500+ on TV. No one forces anyone to buy Advance Release at a premium to whatever the Mint is charging, and as soon as that market dries up, ABPP will stop playing.
Not complicated, and they are never going to get hurt, no matter the price. No, the people at risk of getting hurt are us, by putting them away at $173, or by paying retail to have them slabbed, not getting special attributions that the market puts a premium on, and then maybe not getting 70s.
FWIW, the Congratulations Set 2026 and the American Eagle 2026 One Ounce Silver Proof Coin both on sale February 26th.
OK modern experts, why put these two issues on sale on the same day?
Is it best to have one shopping day for these two coins? A proof ASE with a 'P' Mint mark vs. a proof ASE with a Liberty Bell privy, two dates and a 'W' Mint mark.
2026-P Congratulations Set..............
2026-W ASE Proof
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Why not?
If they are going to have the queue in place, you will have 10 minutes to throw one or both of the coins in your cart, The only race will be for the Congratulations Set anyway.
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2026 National Money Show
Savannah, Georgia
**Thu, Feb 26 - Sat, Feb 28, 2026
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https://www.money.org/NationalMoneyShow/
Coordination with the ANA Money Show. Plus, the Congratulations Set is normally the same coin in different packaging.
They have gone on sale on the same date, typically in conjunction with the FUN show, for several years now. This year it was pushed back, due to production issues and/or the repricing.
Plus, I'm telling you, the W coin is going to be a nothingburger, while the Congratulations Set is going to sell out in less than 10 minutes. Nothing to see here.
Was looking thru TV schedule and saw Magic Mike was on HSN. Turned on to see him selling the proofs NGC 70 Advanced Release for $799 which he said was the same price he sold them before silver went to $100. Said he sold out before but was able to get more. If you knew how he got them you would probably never buy an Advanced release coin for an outrageous premium again.
PS. while he was on the subscription opened on the website with zero HHL then quickly went dark again. Remember the saying: What you don't know will definitely hurt you.
I did get a confirmed subscription while it was open.
Remember: “The mint is like a box of chocolates”
Subscriptions open again at 7:38 eastern
I have mixed feelings about the 2026 Philly proof congrats ASE.
Numismatic neat if the P mint mark will only be a one time pony.
And I understand that short term flippers can get 'coin' for pf70 graded FDI samples until the hoopla wears down and possibly more than average pf70 samples are graded as such..
Long term value hold , questionable in my mind.
I think the 2025 S proof eagle was lower mintage and presently, graded pf70 FDI samples are not hitting the resale $175 mark or barely on average. Correct me if I be wrong.
Again in numismatic eyes, it is neat if the coin remains the only P mint mark ASE.
I may try on Feb 26th, but on the fence.
Congrats to those on the subscription !
Feb 15 10:59 pst I accidentally caught the subscription buy button so I bought one!
Not sure about congrats on the Congratulation.
I subscribed last year when the Congratulations was half the price, but I might as well get it and see how it goes.
it's going to be a long-term winner
I agree !
Got the email to verify your order cause these will be shipping soon.
Would like one slabbed.
Today’s ATS for the bulk buyers is 5427 (was 30,020 a week ago).
So at least 25,000 slabbed with astronomical pricing.
Just received a shipped notice from the fulfillment center from my carrier. Says I will receive package tomorrow with signature required.
Thanks to you I just cancelled two of two the 500k 250th $ !
I had no clue these were shipping out way before 2-26-26 modified issue date.
Comes close to covering 3 of my 1776~2026 baseless metal unc mint sets
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For those, like me, who are unfamiliar with the term “ATS”, ChatGPT says it means “Available To Ship”.
Good luck with your soon to be bulk submission.
These are Gifts to my grandchildren. Won't be submitting these to the host and I sure don't sell the coins. I buy them because I like them.
Very Nice ! Good For You !
You were able to bulk buy quantity of the 2026 Philly ASE Proof ?
Awesome gifts for the Grandkids !
I've learned the slab 70 premium is zero these days due to extreme silver spot value so I agree you should stay with OGP.
In fact locally if you have a PCGS 70 ASE and not the OGP you lose $25 per silver or gold coin.
So really anyone's slab 70s are worth less than zero without OGP too.
I apologize, I made a mistake. The shipment I am receiving is not the ASE mint product.
It was something entirely different and unrelated.
The 2026 dual date Lib Bell ASE is active for subscription right now
I think it's been active for about a week now because people adjusted their subs.
Today’s sales report shows 24,793 purchased by the bulk buyers,
and the ATS is now 3,750 at the premium price of $181.65.
Can this now be declared a total dud?
Hard pass for me!
Is this the 1776~2026 ASE 500k proof version due to launch 2-26-26 ?
If so then I deleted my subscriptions the other day too to off set $124.50 Unc sets inflated fees.
I am putting my eggs in the included 2 Cents basket
Yes
I hope this question does not count as off topic.
Regarding 2026 ASE variations.
The 2026 business strike is the standard satin finish coin. Check.
The 2026 proof dual date- lib bell privy and maybe 2026 P coins supposedly are struck with laser engraved dies improving details ?
The separate product, 2026 enhanced uncirculated ( rather than brilliant uncirculated) coin, has enhanced laser created features ?
Answers have been all over the place on the inter webs.
What's the skinny??
Anybody think the enhanced uncirculated ASE may be " hot"?
Hard for me to understand what you're talking or complaining about, but I'll add my $.02 anyway...
Just like the Congrats Set, today (the 17th) was the last day that the Big's could place their orders for a limit of 30,000 coins. FYI they pay an extra 5% premium to get them early so they can then send them to the TPG's for their "Advance this, First day" that labels.
The Big's ats is now zero, hardly a dud by any stretch.
The total coins struck so far is right around 300,000 out of the 500,000 limit. Plenty to go around.
On drop day next week, I'll boldly predict that around 180,000 out of the 262,000 coins currently in stock will sell in the first 24 hours. But I could be wrong.
This is a far, far cry from being a Dud, Dude.
JM offers 2026 ASE 500 ounce mint sealed monster box at the moment $15.99 over spot, free delivery $46,295 a box if you buy 3 = 1500 ounces ships on 3-6-2026~ish. These have no P or W or S mintmarks on Reverse right of eagle. Philly struck but without mintmark. So when these get loose in aftermarket they are another 2026 ASE option
https://www.jmbullion.com/2026-1-oz-american-silver-eagle-monster-box-500-coins/?
I must be missing something. Where does this 'link/listing' indicate that this 'Monster Box' comes from the U.S. Mint in Philadelphia, as opposed to West Point? Or, did you get this information from another source?
Indeed !
I forgot to study the straps which say WEST POINT.
GOOD CATCH !
Been following this particular issue since the January silver price increase ($91 to $173).
Really hoping it crashes and burns, I mean, melts.
So youre a hard buy, guy?
Don’t go broke, bloke.
Here’s hoping it tanks. Thanks!
Officer Friendly, is it you?
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Thanks for bringing me into the discussion. I was staying out of it, since I honestly thought there was nothing to talk about.
But, now that you invited me in, I'll gladly take the bait. No, nothing from the Mint priced at $173 with around $80 of intrinsic value, and a maximum mintage of 500K, is going to do anything in the secondary market, no matter how many dates or privies are on it, or what the TV guys breathlessly say.
It's not going to sell out, and it's not going to do anything. So, yeah, dud.
As long as the Mint is transparent and honest about what they are going to do, I'm not going to bash them, no matter how over priced their product is. They are absolutely free to do what they want, as are we.
So long as they don't hide the ball and play games with their disclosures. If they short mint 100K of these and then don't make more, it will be another story. In the meantime, enjoy!
NJ,
You never left the discussion, and I expect many more posts from you, the expert on this release, moving forward in this thread.
Who said anything about the secondary? Who said anything about performance on TV, or Bulk seller profits?
Who said anything about a sellout?
Why is it automatically assumed that if a product doesn't sell out within hours or minutes on day one, it's a Loser, a Dud?
Ludacris on its face.
This release might seem like a Dud to you and the OP, but it ain't no Dud to the Mint, and I can assure you that they're going to make a 'Mint' on this release - pun intended.
To start a thread or discussion on an upcoming Mint release is one thing.
To then hope for said release to Crash, Burn, and Melt is an embarrassment to the OP. IMO.
To be fair, I really don't think anyone, certainly not me, is "hope for said release to Crash, Burn, and Melt."
These are all just discussions, opinions, etc. With respect to me, what you characterize as "bashing" is an expression of frustration over a lack of transparency regarding published mintages and general disclosures.
What others are expressing, rightfully so, is frustration over pricing and/or mintages. As FH Gold privies and Omega cents have demonstrated, if the Mint makes few enough of anything, they can be winners at pretty much any price.
The converse is also true. No matter how money the Mint makes, from a collector/investor point of view, a new release is a "dud" if it does not hold its value after purchase. By that definition, 500K one ounce silver coins made for sale in February 2026 at $173 each will be duds. Period.
Because, sure, the Mint makes a "mint" (pun intended) on everything. Other than nickels today. It has a government monopoly to make legal tender coinage.
Doesn't mean a NCLT coin with a mintage of 500K is not a dud if it does not sell out. Because the unsold inventory represents an overhang on the secondary market, depressing value. And because the Mint wasted money turning potentially over 100K ounces of silver into paperweights collecting dust in a warehouse.
The idea with NCLT is to try to match mintage to demand. Actually making a little less in order to support the secondary market, in order to support continued demand in the future. And then to price correctly, since price directly correlates to demand, given that NCLT is not food, water or shelter.
Not to just make anything at any price, in any quantity, and then declare victory because the monopoly manufacturer of American legal tender coinage was able to sell product above the marginal cost of production.
So guys what do you think of this coin in 5 years? Is it a good investment if someone bought it on Feb 26th for $173 ? Do you think it would worth at least +$500 in 5 years?
