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lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 12, 2025 4:24AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I have just one. What's that little divot off to the right of the date? A strikethrough, you reckon? Or a planchet flaw? Can't have been a ding, or PCGS would've dinged it for that.

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  • numis1652numis1652 Posts: 100 ✭✭✭

    The real question is whether a Hansen or “ modern day “ pedigree is worth or valued as high as an Eliasberg, Pittman, Ford, Carter , Stack, Zabriskie, Brand , etc pedigree.

    More specifically, I and most oldtime long term numismatists ( 65+ yrs for me ) value a pedigree of a many- decades devoted and knowledgable collector who piece by piece built a superb collection
    more than a very wealthy collector / accumulator who threw $ at the hobby over a few years buying only the best and , at that, using a dealer to largely assist in advising / purchasing coins.
    That’s not a valued pedigree in my mind !

  • numis1652numis1652 Posts: 100 ✭✭✭

    Yes, that too.

  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lordmarcovan said:
    I have just one. What's that little divot off to the right of the date? A strikethrough, you reckon? Or a planchet flaw? Can't have been a ding, or PCGS would've dinged it for that.

    Looks like a small strike thru to me.

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crepidodera said:
    The Hansen pedigree is nearly worthless, too many average coins.

    I for one bought the coin and not the pedigree. There aren’t too many pedigrees I’ll pay a premium for, but I’m about to do just that, soon, to try and win a John Quincy Adams-pedigreed piece. It’s not exactly a rare pedigree, but I’m an Adams descendant and have long wanted one.

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  • humanssuckhumanssuck Posts: 657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have several coins that were in Hansen slabs when i bought them. All but 1 has been liberated and reside in nice new clean PCGS slabs without that ugly label.

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @humanssuck said:
    I have several coins that were in Hansen slabs when i bought them. All but 1 has been liberated and reside in nice new clean PCGS slabs without that ugly label.

    Yep, had mine reholdered too.

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2025 12:39AM

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:

    @lordmarcovan said:
    I have just one. What's that little divot off to the right of the date? A strikethrough, you reckon? Or a planchet flaw? Can't have been a ding, or PCGS would've dinged it for that.

    Looks like a small strike thru to me.

    Thanks. I wondered about that. Neat doubling on the letters, too.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,669 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I purchased a Hansen pedigree coin and within days it was back at PCGS for reholdering.

  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2025 7:48PM

    @skier07 said:
    I purchased a Hansen pedigree coin and within days it was back at PCGS for reholdering.

    I actually think the Hansen holders are pretty darn cool looking.

    I do pull all the CAC stickers off so I guess we all have our idiosyncrasies. :D

  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My one and only:

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:

    @numis1652 said:
    The real question is whether a Hansen or “ modern day “ pedigree is worth or valued as high as an Eliasberg, Pittman, Ford, Carter , Stack, Zabriskie, Brand , etc pedigree.

    More specifically, I and most oldtime long term numismatists ( 65+ yrs for me ) value a pedigree of a many- decades devoted and knowledgable collector who piece by piece built a superb collection
    more than a very wealthy collector / accumulator who threw $ at the hobby over a few years buying only the best and , at that, using a dealer to largely assist in advising / purchasing coins.
    That’s not a valued pedigree in my mind !

    It’s a marketing gimmick. The labels should say “Hansen’s Castaways”. Sure, there are some nice coins with a DLH label but the provenances with real merit and concomitant value are the ones where the coins were the final selections in their collections (Bass ANA Museum, for ex.), not the stuff they rotated in and out of along the way.

    That feels more like Gilligan's Island? They aren't really Castaways, but these coins were the number 1 coins in the set at some time. One thing that's worth mentioning is that many of the great collectors (Eliasberg, Bass, etc) have multiple coins of the same date, etc with their pedigrees. It's not always the final coin that sat in the set that is mentioned as such. Eliasberg sold many of his earlier duplicates in the H.R. Lee sale and in New Netherlands sales. So, these duplicates are often mentioned as being from the Eliasberg collection, but they were "castaways" as well.

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  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crepidodera said:
    The Hansen pedigree is nearly worthless, too many average coins.

    I can't say that I agree with this, but the market will certainly show us down the road. The fact that the duplicate coins are often the 2nd finest graded shows that the quality is far above average in general, but there are some lower graded pieces, I'll agree with that, but every collection has a few of those!

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    I purchased a Hansen pedigree coin and within days it was back at PCGS for reholdering.

    I'm sure PCGS didn't mind the submission and extra income! :smile:

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ReadyFireAim said:

    @skier07 said:
    I purchased a Hansen pedigree coin and within days it was back at PCGS for reholdering.

    I actually think the Hansen holders are pretty darn cool looking.

    I do pull all the CAC stickers off so I guess we all have our idiosyncrasies. :D

    I'm glad you like the holders! @Legend would be disappointed in the missing stickers... :smiley:

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • LJenkins11LJenkins11 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I purchased this piece because I was looking for a nice circulated grade 57-S to fill a void in my set, I like it and I am comfortable with it remaining in the holder.

  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭✭

    @humanssuck said:
    I have several coins that were in Hansen slabs when i bought them. All but 1 has been liberated and reside in nice new clean PCGS slabs without that ugly label.

    Re-slabbed mine

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since others have weighed in with opinions of Mr. Hansen’s collecting “legacy”, I will as well. Some of his earlier buys were simply not good coins. As he grew as a collector, they became better quality. Much better in some cases. I’m impressed most by his extreme rarities (the 1854 -S QE immediately comes to mind).
    We shouldn’t be envious of his bankroll or decision to take this journey. All in all, he’s contributed a lot to our hobby. Enough (too much?) said.
    I own two that come to mind (there’s another I sold that was typical of his early buys - i.e. I couldn’t wait to sell it when I had the chance to buy a better one).


    Like others have already said, I don’t care much for his label.


    No attribution on this one, but it was his.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t mind the label. I’m not too finicky about that (though it is kinda weird having the cert # on the back of the slab). My gold dollar in the OP will remain in the Hansen holder.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • epcepc Posts: 413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1850 half dime I posted above was bought for the variety, not the pedigree. I don't care much about the slabs or labels, as long as I can store them together in mixed company, and as long as I can see the coins inside. I neither seek nor shun labels like the DLH ones. I have re-holdered only when there were too many scuffs and scratches, or if I wanted an edge-view holder. While I do have a small collection of certification errors, I mostly collect coins...

    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • ndeaglesndeagles Posts: 416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bought the coin not the pedigree. I love this coin and it's one of my favorites in my collection.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I did buy one, it would quickly get reholdered.

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of the comments seem a little harsh. As an accumulator-type collector, Mr Hansen is bound to have purchased some middling coins along the way. There are also some dates for which there are zero attractive examples.
    He also has some spectacular coins.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:

    @Crepidodera said:
    The Hansen pedigree is nearly worthless, too many average coins.

    I can't say that I agree with this, but the market will certainly show us down the road. The fact that the duplicate coins are often the 2nd finest graded shows that the quality is far above average in general, but there are some lower graded pieces, I'll agree with that, but every collection has a few of those!

    I'm not just talking about the lower graded pieces in his collection. His collection was thrown together so quickly, quality wasn't a priority. As higher graded examples become available, the replaced average coins flood the market.

    Doug

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a couple.

    This 1804 Cent is a Hansen piece, graded EF-40

    And this 1838 quarter eagle , graded MS-61.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crepidodera said:

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:

    @Crepidodera said:
    The Hansen pedigree is nearly worthless, too many average coins.

    I can't say that I agree with this, but the market will certainly show us down the road. The fact that the duplicate coins are often the 2nd finest graded shows that the quality is far above average in general, but there are some lower graded pieces, I'll agree with that, but every collection has a few of those!

    I'm not just talking about the lower graded pieces in his collection. His collection was thrown together so quickly, quality wasn't a priority. As higher graded examples become available, the replaced average coins flood the market.

    Doug

    BS. Quality was almost always a priority. The exception that comes to mind is him passing on the eliasberg 1913 and his choice of 1804 $1

  • qrtqrt Posts: 472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2026 12:08PM

    the

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @Crepidodera said:

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:

    @Crepidodera said:
    The Hansen pedigree is nearly worthless, too many average coins.

    I can't say that I agree with this, but the market will certainly show us down the road. The fact that the duplicate coins are often the 2nd finest graded shows that the quality is far above average in general, but there are some lower graded pieces, I'll agree with that, but every collection has a few of those!

    I'm not just talking about the lower graded pieces in his collection. His collection was thrown together so quickly, quality wasn't a priority. As higher graded examples become available, the replaced average coins flood the market.

    Doug

    BS. Quality was almost always a priority. The exception that comes to mind is him passing on the eliasberg 1913 and his choice of 1804 $1

    When his liberty seated quarters were sent to CACG, only 49% crossed. Included in the 51% that wouldn't cross, are very average circulated examples of the following dates: 1842, 1849-O, 1855-O, 1858-S, and 1859-S. His collection does include a great number of stunning top pop gems, which is a result of having unlimited funds.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quality and Quality for the Grade are two distinctly different things in my mind

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