Does Patrick Mahomes have two of the worst all time Super Bowl performances?
1948_Swell_Robinson
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Last year he padded his stats in the fourth quarter garbage time, but he might have had the worst passing performance I have ever seen. Cost them the game. It might even be worse than some of those early 1970's performances when the QB had 67 yards or something(because those QB's were just managers in a different offensive philosophy).
Actually, it was worse.
The second is the stink bomb he dropped against Tampa in that beating. Cannot use the offensive line excuse....because isn't a 'winner' supposed to overcome that?
Even though the refs seem to go out of their way to save him on key 3rd/4th down plays in the playoffs...nothing could help those two performances.
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If you can’t use the offensive line excuse, then you need to stick with baseball because you don’t understand football,
He was literally running for his life both games. No quarterback in history would have won those games.
So then, the opposite is also true? When the offensive line plays well then they were the reason they won and not Mahomes?? Etc Etc Etc.
Can't have it both ways. He had the worst performance ever. End of story.
for me, last year's SB foreshadowed what was the come this year. the Chiefs are being exposed. they won all of those one-score games last season, and now they're losing the majority of them. and that's because the defense isn't as good as it once was, and they can't run the football. and as great as PM has been throughout his career, even he doesn't look the same at times.
i'm not going to go as far to say that the dynasty is completely over, but it sure does seem like the KC trajectory is being altered
Yes the offensive line has won many games for many teams. Again, you don’t comprehend football very well do you?
How would a pitcher do without a catcher behind the plate?
Bottom line, the Chiefs have won 3 super bowls and have gone to the afc championship game every year since Mahomes has been a starter.
Thinking he’s Houdini and is supposed to win when the O line sucks shows a lot of ignorance about football.
How many QB’s have won a Super Bowl when facing constant pressure?
Lol, the pitcher wouldn't throw a pitch until a catcher was there.
I comprehend it perfectly...just like I comprehend your double standard. Mahomes played terrible. You can't go give him all this credit for 'winning all these super bowls' and then just bubble wrap him for playing terrible(as well as other teammates playing bad) and crapping the bed.
Mahomes had more than enough chances where he had time and he threw terrible passes. Overthrows. Picks. Bad choices. Not seeing open receivers. He had all that too as well as weak offensive line.
I should also say he should share that credit with the refs in all those playoff runs. Gotta give them their credit too.
He choked.
Normal Mahomes rollout. This was ALL on Mahomes. Terrible terrible terrible pass.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J4YIHo_2cCU
Cue the 'blame someone for not running their route' excuse...always someone else and never the QB.
and btw i'm not ragging on your team darin. just conveying the results of my own personal eye test.
my team is rolling and i'm not sold on us not being posers either. we've made significant strides with Ben Johnson and i'm ecstatic about that, but i'm not in a position where i can't see the forest for the trees. we're 8-3 with a negative point differential. we've been winning every close game, and that's not sustainable. eventually you'll go through the ice. in fact, i expect us to be exposed in Philly today. if Caleb plays well and we beat the Eagles, i will be pleasantly astonished. and at that point my perception of my own team will change.
don't take it personally bro, we're just talking sports and -- hopefully -- keeping it real
Mahomes himself has also been slipping the last few years. In addition to having the worst super bowl performance ever last year: Compare his last three years with his first several years:
We once talked about who was better, Mahomes or Brady. I thought Mahomes was a good candidate to pass Brady, but I don't think that is the case anymore. Plus, imagine if Brady had an offensive minded coach during his career(and especially his first three super bowl years where he didn't pass as much).
I think Brady has opened that gap by just sitting back in the announcer both and watching Mahomes sh!t the bed in the Super Bowl and put up league average passing seasons recently.
@1948_Swell_Robinson
i agree with all of that. i finally reached a point where i allowed myself to stick Mahomes in the same conservation with Brady, but i have since taken him out. he doesn't create the same type of magic on a consistent basis anymore. but in defense of him, holistically i do not think his team is nearly as good as it once was.
Being a Brady guy as everyone knows, I am waiting until Mahomes retires before I give a fair assessment in comparing the 2
Brady came hot out of the gate like Mahomes but from 2006 to 2014 he didn't bring home a championship so Mahomes gets a pass right now from me.
The Chiefs had a magical regular season last year, the won so many close games but got blown up in the Super Bowl by a very tough Philly team riding high with a stout D and a HOF running back, it happens.
The Pats went undefeated in 2007 and got ripped by a circus catch, they only scored 14 points because Brady was under massive pressure by a savage defensive line and lost, he couldn't get it done then again in 2011 he couldn't get it done again for basically the same reasons
Super Bowls are a team effort, but the QB is almost always the topic of discussion at the end of the game.
Brady didn't play bad in either of those losses to the Giants under pressure. He just didn't have elite games and they lost very close games on one play going one way or another.
Mahomes has two absolute abymsal Super Bowl losses and is getting a pass for those and he shouldn't. Mahomes had more than enough ample chances against the Eagles and was inaccurate, made bad choices, and threw bad interceptions(his doing). Mahomes gets an F for that game independent of his teammates any way you slice it.
When the Pats had the Super Bowl drought, Brady himself was still lighting up the scoreboard and was elite. Mahomes has been average the last few years.
To answer your question, no Mahomes didn’t have two of the worst.
Morton had 4 completions and 4 picks in XII, Gannon had 5 picks, the broncos got slaughtered by the Niners and Elway didn’t do anything so in your twisted thinking it has to be Elway’s fault alone they lost. Several more worse than Mahomes.
You need to realize it’s a team game like baseball, which at least you have a little knowledge about. Football- you’re just lost.
Mahomes has been worse over the last few years but the Super Bowl losses aren’t all on him just like the wins aren’t all on him.
I blame it on the Tiger Woods factor, when Tiger signed with Nike it was the beginning of the end. It took awhile, he didn’t go downhill right away but eventually money became more important than golf. It’s insidious and it’s happening to Mahomes. Too many outside distractions.
The two times I watched Mahomes lose Super Bowl games was against Tampa Bay in 2021 and the Eagles in 2025. Both times his offense line let him down. The greatest passer in the world can’t make completions when he’s on his back, but Mahomes almost managed it during the 2021 game. In the 2025, the Eagles found a way to pressure him with only a four man rush. When you have seven defenders on five receivers, and you are running for your life because the pocket was broken down, it’s hard to have a good game.
Lots of teams have won Super Bowls with a QB who performed far below championship level; not uncommon at all. No team has ever won a Super Bowl, and no team ever will win a Super Bowl, with an offensive line performing far below a championship level. It doesn't happen because it can't happen.
And no, I am not saying that every member of the offensive line is more important than the QB, although it's not rare for one or two of them to be. What I'm saying is that the five players on the offensive line as a group are much more important to a team's success than the one QB. This is true of every team that has ever played, and every team that ever will play. My apologies to those of you (most of you, I hope) who understand football and have always known this, but I think there are still a lot of people, even those who like to comment on football as if they understand it, who don't understand it at all.
In Mahomes' case, the Chiefs weren't going to win with an O-line performing that poorly no matter how well Mahomes played. It is also true that, independent of how poorly the O-line played, Mahomes also played poorly. But I think the O-line deserved most of the blame. In the Super Bowls Mahomes won, I also think the O-line deserved more credit than Mahomes. It's the "heads Mahomes wins, tails the O-line loses" nonsense that betrays the lack of understanding of how football works. That and, of course, saying "{insert name of QB} won {fill in number} Super Bowls", but never saying that about anyone other than the QB.
He Sh!t the bed. Twice. Just admit it instead of making excuses for him.
Your bias is at the heart of your flip flopping stance...just pointing it out. Again. Like with Witt choking with the worst post season performance in a series ever.
I doubt you can even throw a football, lol.
They aren't all on him. His team didn't do well. He played terrible.
Just say, "Hey, he Sh!t the bed twice. It happens." instead of making excuses for him when they lose and then heap all the credit on him when they win. It makes your words ring hollow above. You are the one that doesn't understand it is a team game...
Say the words, "Mahomes played like crap in those two super bowls." Then you words have actual merit.
You blame blame individual baseball players for not winning, yet excuse Mahomes for choking in the super bowl when the QB has far more influence on winning than an individual baseball player does.
Exactly. Someone gets it.
@Darin is guilty of that double standard and not understanding the team element in football....and further not understanding it in baseball when he blames an individual player for not winning.
Darin just say "Mahomes played like crap in those two super bowls," without adding some type of qualifier to excuse his poor play.
Why should I keep answering when I don’t even heap praise on him when KC wins and make excuses for him when they lose. That’s not even true.
But you say I do that. Are you talking about the media doing that?
I answered your question, no he didn’t have the two worst performances in sb history, you need to do some research there.
Yes I can throw a football, but not very far. I’m 61 and not in the best of health so does that count as points against me?
Did you miss this post of a few weeks ago?
I stand corrected.
He may in the future win one more SB. With the right team and when his hunger returns devoid of off field distractions.