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Russell12Russell12 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 30, 2025 5:55AM in U.S. Coin Forum

In case nobody has seen this yet. What do you think the ramifications to our 2026 Semiquincentennial coins will be?

https://readingroom.money.org/cfa-members-fired/

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Haven't the designs already been approved and finalized?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    dcarr will never get a design through now

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:
    In case nobody has seen this yet. What do you think the ramifications to our 2026 Semiquincentennial coins will be?

    https://readingroom.money.org/cfa-members-fired/

    Perhaps the letter of the law will be overlooked, assuming that approval has not already been given.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    dunno going to have to start coining circ strikes soon

    the others?

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:
    Not surprised. More crappy Trump coins.

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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a lack of femininity in my opinion. Designs past and up to the turn of the century have mostly captured strength and beauty.

    Talented artists and interesting interpretations.

    I didn't buy the new Morgan and Peace offering, so it probably doesn't matter.

    Probably somebody will chime in that there is some woke hidden meaning, but the last design is the only one that appeals to me for a viable coin design.

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  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 11,644 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PeakRarities said:
    Are these the designs that we’re mourning because of the termination of this committee? If so, it’s just a gut instinct, but I feel like we’re going to be just fine without ….

    Yeah, total garbage but not unexpected considering the degradation of modern art.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    dcarr will never get a design through now

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    Actually, that might improve my chances.

    First of all, do not confuse the Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) with the Citizen's Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC).
    The CCAC only reviews potential coin and medal designs for the US Mint. All such designs are reviewed by the CCAC anonymously (the CCAC members do not know the particular artists who have created the designs that are under review).

    The CFA has influence over all aspects of government-sponsored "art", not just coins and medals. The CFA also determines the necessary qualifications for persons involved in government art projects.

    The CFA is backed by art education entities. As such, the CFA has a strong tendency to recommend only the people who have received a formal art education. People (such as myself) who are basically self-taught in art are at a disadvantage when the CFA is involved with selecting people for various art projects.

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    Self-taught or a degree from a lesser known entity is probably the kiss of death. It shouldn't be but it probably is.

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  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 470 ✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps they will appoint a new voluntary committee, instead of paying the 7 commission members an average of over $100K a year. I know that a lot of people with numismatic experience can competently judge coin designs that are submitted and would probably do it to help out the hobby. Seems like just another political patronage to me.

  • EbeneezerEbeneezer Posts: 345 ✭✭✭

    It will have little if any effect on the 250th coinage since the designs were already approved and currently in the early production stages. Meaning, they most likely have working dies ready to go for January.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    Perhaps they will appoint a new voluntary committee, instead of paying the 7 commission members an average of over $100K a year. I know that a lot of people with numismatic experience can competently judge coin designs that are submitted and would probably do it to help out the hobby. Seems like just another political patronage to me.

    These are not the CCAC. The Fine Arts commission does other things.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    Perhaps they will appoint a new voluntary committee, instead of paying the 7 commission members an average of over $100K a year. I know that a lot of people with numismatic experience can competently judge coin designs that are submitted and would probably do it to help out the hobby. Seems like just another political patronage to me.

    Coin design is probably far down the FAC's list of priorities.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    Perhaps they will appoint a new voluntary committee, instead of paying the 7 commission members an average of over $100K a year. I know that a lot of people with numismatic experience can competently judge coin designs that are submitted and would probably do it to help out the hobby. Seems like just another political patronage to me.

    I’ve never understood this philosophy.

    Why not pay experts for their expertise? It’s not like the USA is poor or anything.

    Do you cringe when paying a professional doctor, lawyer, plumber, or mechanic for his/her expertise when you need it?

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 11,644 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @Old_Collector said:
    Perhaps they will appoint a new voluntary committee, instead of paying the 7 commission members an average of over $100K a year. I know that a lot of people with numismatic experience can competently judge coin designs that are submitted and would probably do it to help out the hobby. Seems like just another political patronage to me.

    I’ve never understood this philosophy.

    Why not pay experts for their expertise? It’s not like the USA is poor or anything.

    Do you cringe when paying a professional doctor, lawyer, plumber, or mechanic for his/her expertise when you need it?

    I do when it's my neighbor getting the advice but expecting me to pay for it.

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 470 ✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @Old_Collector said:
    Perhaps they will appoint a new voluntary committee, instead of paying the 7 commission members an average of over $100K a year. I know that a lot of people with numismatic experience can competently judge coin designs that are submitted and would probably do it to help out the hobby. Seems like just another political patronage to me.

    I’ve never understood this philosophy.

    Why not pay experts for their expertise? It’s not like the USA is poor or anything.

    Do you cringe when paying a professional doctor, lawyer, plumber, or mechanic for his/her expertise when you need it?

    It is not a philosophy when there are plenty of people that would volunteer to do this instead of paying someone up to over $200,000 a year for their personal advice on what should be on our coins. The recent results sure does not support any pay. And as a doctor and patent attorney and frequent user or plumbers and many other professions, I actually do understand paying for actual knowledge and PERSONAL provision of services for me. And I favor paying for many other needed services, but this is just a waste of taxpayer money that does not exist in infinite quantities.

  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of the above designs, I actually do like the one showing the field of wheat. I can see that on a clad commemorative half dollar honoring America the Beautiful.

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  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,828 ✭✭✭

    A clarification: Members of the U.S. Commission of Fine Arts are not paid salaries. They serve without compensation.

    The Commission itself is a federal agency and does have a budget to pay its employees (not its four-year-term volunteer commissioners) and fund its operations. Those employees aren’t part of the CFA’s advisory function but are administrators, clerks, tech workers, etc.

  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2025 6:05PM

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2025 6:12PM

    @COCollector said:

    @291fifth said:
    Coin design is probably far down the [CFA]'s list of priorities.

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    Agreed.

    (Edited)

    A couple days ago the moderators sanitized this thread and removed the political content. I'm not sure it's a good idea to try to reignite the debate.

  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    A couple days ago the moderators sanitized this thread and removed the political content. I'm not sure it's a good idea to try to reignite the debate.

    .

    Thanks for pointing that out.

    So, I edited my post to remove my comments.

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