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CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

When going through my Dad's estate recently I found 4 coins that I thought it would be prudent to get slabbed up. Grades & images are in now. Three out of four straight graded. Not bad Dad, not bad.

VG8, I think this one is my favorite of the four.

AU55

VG Details, Damage (Can you spot the damage?)

MS64

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  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,242 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you hadn't told me the twenty-cent piece didn't straight-grade, I would have expected it to straight-grade. I don't think the obverse scratches near the date are anything to worry about at this grade level, so I will guess that the obverse rim is flattened near five o'clock.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All nice stuff (umm, is that jewelery damage as in bezel?)

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2025 4:32PM

    @TomB said:
    If you hadn't told me the twenty-cent piece didn't straight-grade, I would have expected it to straight-grade. I don't think the obverse scratches near the date are anything to worry about at this grade level, so I will guess that the obverse rim is flattened near five o'clock.

    What about that chewed up rim at nine o'clock?

    I like that lightly toned 83-CC Morgan.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah I would guess rim damage on the double dime as well.

  • JBNJBN Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    @TomB said:
    If you hadn't told me the twenty-cent piece didn't straight-grade, I would have expected it to straight-grade. I don't think the obverse scratches near the date are anything to worry about at this grade level, so I will guess that the obverse rim is flattened near five o'clock.

    What about that chewed up rim at nine o'clock?

    I like that lightly toned 83-CC Morgan.

    Perhaps the area above the eagle's head.
    Great looking coin nevertheless.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    scratch under foot on right

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cladiator said:
    VG Details, Damage (Can you spot the damage?)

    Re-engraved gown details

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  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBN said:

    @Barberian said:

    @TomB said:
    If you hadn't told me the twenty-cent piece didn't straight-grade, I would have expected it to straight-grade. I don't think the obverse scratches near the date are anything to worry about at this grade level, so I will guess that the obverse rim is flattened near five o'clock.

    What about that chewed up rim at nine o'clock?

    I like that lightly toned 83-CC Morgan.

    Perhaps the area above the eagle's head.
    Great looking coin nevertheless.

    I don't see that being much different than the surfaces on the rest of the coin such as the obverse right field. I do see jagged shadows created by that rim at 9 o'clock that I find concerning. IMO, even without seeing the extent of damage or corrosion to that rim, no rim should leave a shadow like that and straight grade. It does show a lot of character for a heavily circulated coin, and it's a special coin as a family heirloom, IMO.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • @Cladiator said:
    When going through my Dad's estate recently I found 4 coins that I thought it would be prudent to get slabbed up. Grades & images are in now. Three out of four straight graded. Not bad Dad, not bad.

    VG8, I think this one is my favorite of the four.

    AU55

    VG Details, Damage (Can you spot the damage?)

    MS64

    Lucky.

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great group !

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBN said:

    @Barberian said:

    @TomB said:
    If you hadn't told me the twenty-cent piece didn't straight-grade, I would have expected it to straight-grade. I don't think the obverse scratches near the date are anything to worry about at this grade level, so I will guess that the obverse rim is flattened near five o'clock.

    What about that chewed up rim at nine o'clock?

    I like that lightly toned 83-CC Morgan.

    Perhaps the area above the eagle's head.
    Great looking coin nevertheless.

    Actually it looks like someone carved a triangle there and fortunately it wasn't labelled graffiti.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice group! I think the damage on the 20c piece is a combination of the bite taken out of the obverse, edge at 10:00, a scratch below Liberty's left foot and above the 5, plausible graffiti in the field near the drapery above the knee (large asterisk), and lots of heavy hits.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What about the semi circular mark at the eagle's crotch?

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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something's going on at 12:00 o'clock on the double dime also.. The scratch under the foot is small and I would suspect the PCGS label would say "scratch" Does it?

    Damage on the rim at 9:00 yes
    Good pull on the re engraved gown but I'm not sure without the coin in hand.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coin Finder said:
    Something's going on at 12:00 o'clock on the double dime also.. The scratch under the foot is small and I would suspect the PCGS label would say "scratch" Does it?

    Damaged is a different no-grade code from scratched. It seems to be a "death by a thousand cuts" sort of designation for this coin. We're finding lots of little things wrong with it, and perhaps that adds up to being called damaged.

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2025 2:01PM

    Thanks for all the comments and guesses on the damage. I'm leaning towards edge issues in multiple places. I think if it were the scratch it would grade scratched, not damaged. If they thought it was re-engraving on Liberty I'd expect them to say tooled instead of damaged (I got some tooled grades for just that years ago with a few seated dollars). I'll have to reinspect closely when it's home and maybe post some edge photos if I can get good ones.

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I got the coins in hand today and took a close look at the 20¢.

    The dark line along the reverse rim from 6 o'clock-2 o'clock is actually indented into the coin so that could surely be damage right? Also, the edge from obverse 9 o'clock-11 o'clock is pretty chewed up. That entire edge area is beat up and only has 3 distinctly discernible reeds. The edge just right of 1875 is the same way but to a lesser degree. So that could totally be the damage too.

    All the other spots mentioned look ok to me under a 9x loupe.

    I'll admit when I got the coin and assessed it prior to submitting it I did not look at the edge of the coin. My fault there. I do think it's a pretty coin for a VG, especially when not looking at the edge lol.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coins thanks for sharing.

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