@gemtone65 said:
From my pattern collection: PCGS Proof 65+: Population 1, 2 graded
higher.
Absolutely love the Longacre's Indian Princess design motif's. Plus being a mule combined with the Std silver reverse - thus no mention of our country. Nice piece.
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J-1460 NGC PR63BN
While this piece has been called a 'Sailor Head’ in auction catalogs, it does fall short of the sailor head designs of the smaller denomination counter parts as it’s missing the drapery that surrounds her shoulders. It's this drapery that create an image of a collar, and when combined with the hair style, resembles a sailor uniform.
This piece is traced to Stacks Nov 1965 (Ewalt Collection Auction ) / Lot #65 and thus to the B. Max Mehl Nov 1944 -Fred E. Olsen Numismatic Auction/ Lot# 52.
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I think it’s so cool to have a natural looking Indian Head Cent dated 1858!
CAC and also an Eagle Eye Photo Seal. There are a total of 50 of these 1858 Pattern J-211 Indian Head Cents graded PR64 (29 by PCGS and 21 by NGC). Of those 50, only 8 have a CAC sticker!
The obverse is similar to the issued Indian Cent, but dated 1858. The reverse is similar to the issued 1860 cent reverse, except there is no shield between the ends of the laurel wreath. This is the centered date, broad bust point variant, thus the Pollock-262.
Sea-green, reddish, and blue tints make an appearance, making for a lovely original skin. Fields flash with healthy proof brilliance, while the central devices are lightly frosted.
Steve
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I think it’s so cool to have a natural looking Indian Head Cent dated 1858!
CAC and also an Eagle Eye Photo Seal. There are a total of 50 of these 1858 Pattern J-211 Indian Head Cents graded PR64 (29 by PCGS and 21 by NGC). Of those 50, only 8 have a CAC sticker!
The obverse is similar to the issued Indian Cent, but dated 1858. The reverse is similar to the issued 1860 cent reverse, except there is no shield between the ends of the laurel wreath. This is the centered date, broad bust point variant, thus the Pollock-262.
Sea-green, reddish, and blue tints make an appearance, making for a lovely original skin. Fields flash with healthy proof brilliance, while the central devices are lightly frosted.
Steve
Nice first pattern ... I might suggest you are now hooked. You just need a few more for the historic 12 piece 1858 Pattern set.
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Ha! My entire collecting life has been working on sets, whether Type Sets or DATE Sets of a series, or in one case, with my Indian Head Cents, a regular series.
No offense, but I’m not hooked. This one caught my eye only because it’s double-stickered, looks like a normal IHC, and as noted, I find it so cool to have one dated 1858.
Thanks.
Steve
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Judd-147; Pollock-175. R7. Copper composition with plain edge. A $1 gold type 3 purportedly fits inside the ring (although I’ve never tried it). Gold was used in commerce in 1852; silver value was over its face amount & not circulated back then.
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PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
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Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
Judd-147; Pollock-175. R7. Copper composition with plain edge. A $1 gold type 3 purportedly fits inside the ring (although I’ve never tried it). Gold was used in commerce in 1852; silver value was over its face amount & not circulated back then.
gee ... I had not heard that proposition where a Type 3 Gold $ might fit inside the ring ... but checking some reference I do not think it would.
Pollock noted one measurement of one J147 as .388 Inches ( 8.59mm). I think the Type 3 Gold dollar is more like 15mm.
I borrowed a couple of photos from the Heritage site and presuming the PCGS slabs are all the same width ...one could see the Gold dollar is indeed wider than the hole. A type 1 might have a better chance but is still wider than the inner ring of the J147.
In any case, that J147 is really a cool pattern with some history.
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@retirednow: good comments - thanks! HA referred to a larger size gold dollar fitting within the ring. My interpretation of that was likely incorrect. “Larger” might mean larger than the ring. Plus, the piece is dated 1852, during the type 1 era.
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I noted the J23A just sold at Great Collections for 160K and your name in the provenance listings on USPattern.com ....
****__.... "This is an example of the 1796 no stars quarter eagle struck in white metal from rusted dies. This is a restrike believed made by Joseph Mickley or Montroville Dickeson from dies sold as scrap by the Mint.
It is unique and is ex Chapman, Reed, Rice, Kosoff's 5/55 and 4/56 Melish sales, Stacks 3/91, Heritage 3/98, Mike Byers, Simpson-Heritage 9/20, GreatCollections.com 10/12/25 - PCGS63
Photo courtesy of Mike Byers. "__****
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Comments
Absolutely love the Longacre's Indian Princess design motif's. Plus being a mule combined with the Std silver reverse - thus no mention of our country. Nice piece.
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
J-1460 NGC PR63BN
While this piece has been called a 'Sailor Head’ in auction catalogs, it does fall short of the sailor head designs of the smaller denomination counter parts as it’s missing the drapery that surrounds her shoulders. It's this drapery that create an image of a collar, and when combined with the hair style, resembles a sailor uniform.
This piece is traced to Stacks Nov 1965 (Ewalt Collection Auction ) / Lot #65 and thus to the B. Max Mehl Nov 1944 -Fred E. Olsen Numismatic Auction/ Lot# 52.
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
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I just bought this Pattern!
I think it’s so cool to have a natural looking Indian Head Cent dated 1858!
CAC and also an Eagle Eye Photo Seal. There are a total of 50 of these 1858 Pattern J-211 Indian Head Cents graded PR64 (29 by PCGS and 21 by NGC). Of those 50, only 8 have a CAC sticker!
The obverse is similar to the issued Indian Cent, but dated 1858. The reverse is similar to the issued 1860 cent reverse, except there is no shield between the ends of the laurel wreath. This is the centered date, broad bust point variant, thus the Pollock-262.
Sea-green, reddish, and blue tints make an appearance, making for a lovely original skin. Fields flash with healthy proof brilliance, while the central devices are lightly frosted.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Nice first pattern ... I might suggest you are now hooked. You just need a few more for the historic 12 piece 1858 Pattern set.
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
Ha! My entire collecting life has been working on sets, whether Type Sets or DATE Sets of a series, or in one case, with my Indian Head Cents, a regular series.
No offense, but I’m not hooked. This one caught my eye only because it’s double-stickered, looks like a normal IHC, and as noted, I find it so cool to have one dated 1858.
Thanks.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Longacre Seated Princess Dollar, 1870, R-7, PCGS 65 proof, population 3 with one higher. From a Kagin auction sale circa 1974.
Interesting one:
Judd-147; Pollock-175. R7. Copper composition with plain edge. A $1 gold type 3 purportedly fits inside the ring (although I’ve never tried it). Gold was used in commerce in 1852; silver value was over its face amount & not circulated back then.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
The US Mint should do modern revivals of old patterns, it would make for a nice series!
Looks like from Kagin's BEVERLY- HILTON PUBLIC & MAIL BID AUCTION January 3-4, 1975 California Numismatic Convention
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gee ... I had not heard that proposition where a Type 3 Gold $ might fit inside the ring ... but checking some reference I do not think it would.
Pollock noted one measurement of one J147 as .388 Inches ( 8.59mm). I think the Type 3 Gold dollar is more like 15mm.
I borrowed a couple of photos from the Heritage site and presuming the PCGS slabs are all the same width ...one could see the Gold dollar is indeed wider than the hole. A type 1 might have a better chance but is still wider than the inner ring of the J147.
In any case, that J147 is really a cool pattern with some history.
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
@retirednow: good comments - thanks! HA referred to a larger size gold dollar fitting within the ring. My interpretation of that was likely incorrect. “Larger” might mean larger than the ring. Plus, the piece is dated 1852, during the type 1 era.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
What a nice aspect to patterns ...
I noted the J23A just sold at Great Collections for 160K and your name in the provenance listings on USPattern.com ....
****__.... "This is an example of the 1796 no stars quarter eagle struck in white metal from rusted dies. This is a restrike believed made by Joseph Mickley or Montroville Dickeson from dies sold as scrap by the Mint.
It is unique and is ex Chapman, Reed, Rice, Kosoff's 5/55 and 4/56 Melish sales, Stacks 3/91, Heritage 3/98, Mike Byers, Simpson-Heritage 9/20, GreatCollections.com 10/12/25 - PCGS63
Photo courtesy of Mike Byers. "__****
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!