1861 Confederate Cent 2011 Smithsonian Restrikes - Anyone know the weights? (gold, silver, platinum)

slimbert

Does anyone know the weights of these? I'm looking for gold specifically, but I'm also curious about platinum & silver.

I've seen one Stacks Bowers listing that claims 1/4 oz for the gold , along with some private sellers listings , but most listings don't mention weight.

The APMEX listing specs tab says "Metal Content: 0.25 troy oz" , but doesn't specify which metal, or if all are the same troy oz.

I'm skeptical of them all being the same troy oz, as they appear to have the same diameter. The thicknesses appear to be different, but the gold one appears to be _thicker _than the silver one, meaning they both can't be 1/4 oz (I don't have a platinum in hand to compare with).

Any help would be appreciated, thank!

johnny9434

I wonder if ngc could help some? Maybe shed more light on it

slimbert

@johnny9434 , with respect to NGC, I haven't had luck with them responding to email regarding business with them, so I'm not optimistic they would respond to an email that doesn't involve a business transaction. Plus, these items don't even have a cert# to reference.

I'm hoping a collector on the forum might have some info (or maybe even a raw one to weigh!).

lilolme

I don't know anything about these and additionally don't know if any of these references are good. But I am seeing the gold and platinum referenced as 1/4 oz and the copper and silver sometimes referenced as 1/10 oz. Here are some links.

This one down in the long description.
https://ngcjewelrycoin.com/2022/05/11/1861-confederate-restrikes-ngc-smithsonian-2011-4-coin-set-gold-platinum/

These two RMC indicating 1/10 for copper and silver.

https://rmcoin.com/product/1-10-oz-copper-1861-confederate-cent-smithsonian-restrike-private-issue-struck-2011-gem-proof/

https://rmcoin.com/product/1-10-oz-silver-1861-confederate-cent-smithsonian-restrike-private-issue-struck-2011-gem-proof/

Worthpoint and again in long description as 1/10 copper and silver.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1861-confederate-cent-smithsonian-1802827675

LukeMarshall

Ive got the Platinum one here it is on a scale exactly 1/4 Troy oz. 7.75grams

Mr Lindy

Curious, anyone know who struck the Smithsonian fantasies ?

I cannot find them on Moonlight Mint website so I assume they are done elsewhere or elsewheres.

PerryHall

Are these actual restrikes or are they replicas? There is a difference.

lilolme

Once again I don't know anything about these (first time seeing them on this thread).

One sources states the New York Mint produced them but I don't know if correct and did not attempt to verify.

One of the sources above states:
For the 150th anniversary of the Civil War in 2011, the Smithsonian authorized the production of a small quantity of Confederate one-cent restrikes based on the original dies.

As stated above 'based on the original dies' - I believe the original dies were not used (as in a restrike) as I think this is the Original from pcgs coinfacts and there are clear differences between it and these 'restrikes' or reproductions.

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1861-1c-csa-original/340404