@Basebal21 said:
The catch stuff makes no sense. If youre running the ball just needs to basically tough the goal line but if youre catching it you cant ever have it move even in the endzone when you clearly caught it
At least have consistency with the two rules
When you're running, you already have possession and the play ends as soon as it breaks the plane (with possession).
With a catch, you have to complete the catch (establish possession).
They're different scenarios so the rules are different, not inconsistent.
Whats the difference for a WR though
A RB can take a step and fumble the ball on the goal line and it counts, but a WR can take multiple steps after the catch and if the ball moves at all it dose not count
@Basebal21 said:
The catch stuff makes no sense. If youre running the ball just needs to basically tough the goal line but if youre catching it you cant ever have it move even in the endzone when you clearly caught it
At least have consistency with the two rules
When you're running, you already have possession and the play ends as soon as it breaks the plane (with possession).
With a catch, you have to complete the catch (establish possession).
They're different scenarios so the rules are different, not inconsistent.
Whats the difference for a WR though
A RB can take a step and fumble the ball on the goal line and it counts, but a WR can take multiple steps after the catch and if the ball moves at all it dose not count
Completely agree.
A couple years ago Adam Thielen caught a pass in the end zone, came down with both feet in bounds, was knocked to the ground landing on his butt, then elbow. When his elbow hit the turf, ball came loose as he went out of the back of the end zone.
No touchdown!
Load of fertilizer.
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@Maywood said: @perkdog, just saw a story questioning whether or not Joe Burrow wants out of Cincinnati. Maybe you're onto something!!
Well it was my opinion that Cincy should trade him, I wasn't aware of Burrow being disgruntled but I did see a interview where he was saying he "Had alot going on professionally and personally" which I thought was pretty weird to say at a press conference, he added that "What's the point if it isn't fun" regarding playing.
He is turning 29 which is still young for a QB but regardless I'm sure it's weighing heavy on everyone in the organization that here they are again with a very slim chance of making the playoffs and again him missing a lot of time due to injury
They could get a lot for him and might be better off
If the interpretation of that interview and comment is that he's considering an early retirement than trading him is the way to go. I wonder if the constant rather serious injuries are starting to weigh on him?? Right now he has 3-4 separate areas of his body that have been surgically repaired and if he's dealing with issues of pain and constant rehab maybe he's exhausted. Who could blame him, certainly not me. Every player has a different tolerance of pain and a limit to injuries.
I'm undergoing surgery on Dec.19th, but I don't have to be ready to compete in anything and get pounded by 300 lb. lineman. Hats off to JB, if he steps away I'd bet he would be a good coach at some level.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
If the interpretation of that interview and comment is that he's considering an early retirement than trading him is the way to go. I wonder if the constant rather serious injuries are starting to weigh on him?? Right now he has 3-4 separate areas of his body that have been surgically repaired and if he's dealing with issues of pain and constant rehab maybe he's exhausted. Who could blame him, certainly not me. Every player has a different tolerance of pain and a limit to injuries.
I'm undergoing surgery on Dec.19th, but I don't have to be ready to compete in anything and get pounded by 300 lb. lineman. Hats off to JB, if he steps away I'd bet he would be a good coach at some level.
For sure, it happened with Andrew Luck so. it could happen with Burrow
I believe your in your early 70's so it's quite unfair for you to. compare yourself to. a 29 year old youngster just so you know lol
@Maywood said: @perkdog, just saw a story questioning whether or not Joe Burrow wants out of Cincinnati. Maybe you're onto something!!
Well it was my opinion that Cincy should trade him, I wasn't aware of Burrow being disgruntled but I did see a interview where he was saying he "Had alot going on professionally and personally" which I thought was pretty weird to say at a press conference, he added that "What's the point if it isn't fun" regarding playing.
He is turning 29 which is still young for a QB but regardless I'm sure it's weighing heavy on everyone in the organization that here they are again with a very slim chance of making the playoffs and again him missing a lot of time due to injury
They could get a lot for him and might be better off
I think any future teams interest would take a cautious approach to his acquisition. What with his penchant for injury. But the risk may be worth the reward.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
If Denver runs the table and wins its next for games to end the season at 15-2, I wonder how the Broncos will then be viewed by the sports media and general public.
@Maywood said: @perkdog, just saw a story questioning whether or not Joe Burrow wants out of Cincinnati. Maybe you're onto something!!
Well it was my opinion that Cincy should trade him, I wasn't aware of Burrow being disgruntled but I did see a interview where he was saying he "Had alot going on professionally and personally" which I thought was pretty weird to say at a press conference, he added that "What's the point if it isn't fun" regarding playing.
He is turning 29 which is still young for a QB but regardless I'm sure it's weighing heavy on everyone in the organization that here they are again with a very slim chance of making the playoffs and again him missing a lot of time due to injury
They could get a lot for him and might be better off
I think any future teams interest would take a cautious approach to his acquisition. What with his penchant for injury. But the risk may be worth the reward.
I think a lot of teams would bite, probably the Browns would be first in line then the Jets.
Looking at it if my Pats still had Mac Jones and were slogging through a 6-11 season I'd swap 2 first rounders for him
If Denver runs the table and wins its next for games to end the season at 15-2, I wonder how the Broncos will then be viewed by the sports media and general public.
Most likely still not favorably.
in my mind there's a rigid dichotomy between formidable and the Denver Broncos, regardless of their record. but i feel the same exact way about my team, the Bears. i haven't been sold on either of them all season, even amid all the success. on its face it seems unconventional, but for me personally i'm able to compartmentalize the wins & losses and the eye test i take every time i watch them play. i just wouldn't be scared of either team come playoffs time. in fact, i'd relish the opportunity to take them out.
and that's IF my team even makes it, which they may very well not. yours is definitely in, and i hope they make a fruitful run despite everything i just said.
@Maywood said: @perkdog, just saw a story questioning whether or not Joe Burrow wants out of Cincinnati. Maybe you're onto something!!
Carson Palmer did it after 8 years in Cincinnati. Went on to play another 10 years on different teams. Cincinnati is the cheapest franchise in sports. His offensive line has ranked 25th or worse the last 5 years. I’d be surprised if Chase is the next player not having fun. Burrow is too important to the league and way too good to waste another day in Cincinnati
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@SanctionII said:
If Denver runs the table and wins its next for games to end the season at 15-2, I wonder how the Broncos will then be viewed by the sports media and general public.
Most likely still not favorably.
We’ve seen 15 win teams not do well in the playoffs. Here’s my personal take on Denver and New England.
Cruising through an easy schedule doesn’t prepare you for the playoffs. Beating bad teams 30-10 or 14-13 doesn’t bode well against teams that are seasoned from previous playoff experience. Both will make the playoffs with a home game so we shall see if the playoffs exposes their weaknesses bad teams couldn’t take advantage of.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@Maywood said: @perkdog, just saw a story questioning whether or not Joe Burrow wants out of Cincinnati. Maybe you're onto something!!
Well it was my opinion that Cincy should trade him, I wasn't aware of Burrow being disgruntled but I did see a interview where he was saying he "Had alot going on professionally and personally" which I thought was pretty weird to say at a press conference, he added that "What's the point if it isn't fun" regarding playing.
He is turning 29 which is still young for a QB but regardless I'm sure it's weighing heavy on everyone in the organization that here they are again with a very slim chance of making the playoffs and again him missing a lot of time due to injury
They could get a lot for him and might be better off
I think any future teams interest would take a cautious approach to his acquisition. What with his penchant for injury. But the risk may be worth the reward.
I think a lot of teams would bite, probably the Browns would be first in line then the Jets.
Looking at it if my Pats still had Mac Jones and were slogging through a 6-11 season I'd swap 2 first rounders for him
If JB moved it better be to a team with a strong offensive line to offer the best protection.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
@2dueces said: How do you win a game committing 19 penalties?
Not only that, how does an NFL team commit 19 penalties in a game?? Considering there were 127 plays run by both teams it means that Atlanta had a penalty after every 7th play.
I love to be at the team meeting when they discuss this!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
19 penalties is grotesque, but what makes me want to drive my car into a pole is watching a team that allows another team to convert 3rd & 28 with the game on the line
@perkdog said:
How does Todd Bowles still have a HC position?
It's baffling
agreed. I cant imagine publicly throwing your own players under the bus that way. if need be, that should happen at the team facility behind closed doors.
@galaxy27 said:
19 penalties is grotesque, but what makes me want to drive my car into a pole is watching a team that allows another team to convert 3rd & 28 with the game on the line
it's too much for my brain to handle
Thanks for reminding me. Hate the Eagles.
A 28 yard pass play on 4th and 26 that was so unbelievable it has its own Wiki page.
@Basebal21 said:
The catch stuff makes no sense. If youre running the ball just needs to basically tough the goal line but if youre catching it you cant ever have it move even in the endzone when you clearly caught it
At least have consistency with the two rules
When you're running, you already have possession and the play ends as soon as it breaks the plane (with possession).
With a catch, you have to complete the catch (establish possession).
They're different scenarios so the rules are different, not inconsistent.
Whats the difference for a WR though
A RB can take a step and fumble the ball on the goal line and it counts, but a WR can take multiple steps after the catch and if the ball moves at all it dose not count
One (RB) already has possession, the other has to establish it. In the case of the RB, the play is over as soon as the ball breaks the goal line, assuming he still has possession.
@Basebal21 said:
The catch stuff makes no sense. If youre running the ball just needs to basically tough the goal line but if youre catching it you cant ever have it move even in the endzone when you clearly caught it
At least have consistency with the two rules
When you're running, you already have possession and the play ends as soon as it breaks the plane (with possession).
With a catch, you have to complete the catch (establish possession).
They're different scenarios so the rules are different, not inconsistent.
Whats the difference for a WR though
A RB can take a step and fumble the ball on the goal line and it counts, but a WR can take multiple steps after the catch and if the ball moves at all it dose not count
One (RB) already has possession, the other has to establish it. In the case of the RB, the play is over as soon as the ball breaks the goal line, assuming he still has possession.
Why should a WR though have to do significantly more
@craig44 said:
what about the toe tap TD catches on the edge of the end zone? all the receiver does is catch and get 2 toes in bounds. no "football move" involved.
the receiver in the Baltimore game caught the ball, had 2 feet in bounds and then had the ball knocked out.
Hopefully my favorite team will notch its 11th straight win and go to 12-2 on the season. Sure would like to see Denver take the #1 seed in the AFC and get a first round bye in the playoffs.
@craig44 said:
what about the toe tap TD catches on the edge of the end zone? all the receiver does is catch and get 2 toes in bounds. no "football move" involved.
the receiver in the Baltimore game caught the ball, had 2 feet in bounds and then had the ball knocked out.
what am i missing?
Just Bad officials since the NFL wont make them full time and a pass catch rule that needs to be rewritten
Bills - Pats. We shall see if the soft schedule has a late season effect. If the pats win this game I will admit they are for real.
Denver- Green Bay. Can the Broncos sleep for 3 quarters every game and win ? Sorry, not tomorrow. Green Bay is a seasoned team and Denver will need more than 10 points in the first 45 minutes
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I cannot believe he is starting, good for him staying in shape after such a long layoff
I can't imagine he will be all that effective
Hes been coaching a Alabama HS team I forget the name.
They definitely need the game of their life though with the OL. I liked him a lot but even in his prime he couldnt really run
I couldn't stand him, I respect him being competitive but i just remember him pouting on the sidelines when losing to the Patriots in the playoffs, him and LT both
I cannot believe he is starting, good for him staying in shape after such a long layoff
I can't imagine he will be all that effective
Hes been coaching a Alabama HS team I forget the name.
They definitely need the game of their life though with the OL. I liked him a lot but even in his prime he couldnt really run
I couldn't stand him, I respect him being competitive but i just remember him pouting on the sidelines when losing to the Patriots in the playoffs, him and LT both
He did play with a torn ACL though and have to respect that.
LT and Gates just never seemed to be able to stay healthy when it came to the playoffs. Marty always just went into trying to run out the clock second hafe which was dumb
I dont doubt Rivers toughness but I dont have high hopes for him at this point
I find myself rooting for Rivers in the same way my dad rooted for Nolan ryan back in the early 90s. hoping the old guy can show those yunguns we middle aged guys have still got it!!!
@craig44 said:
I find myself rooting for Rivers in the same way my dad rooted for Nolan ryan back in the early 90s. hoping the old guy can show those yunguns we middle aged guys have still got it!!!
Imagine all the QB2’s and QB3’s on other rosters thoughts this week. Why?
I’ll give it to them straight. A 44 year old, 5 years removed can still read defenses better than the whole lot of you. You got by on athletic ability and didn’t learn the proper way to play QB. It’s not talent, it’s football intelligence
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@craig44 said:
I find myself rooting for Rivers in the same way my dad rooted for Nolan ryan back in the early 90s. hoping the old guy can show those yunguns we middle aged guys have still got it!!!
Imagine all the QB2’s and QB3’s on other rosters thoughts this week. Why?
I’ll give it to them straight. A 44 year old, 5 years removed can still read defenses better than the whole lot of you. You got by on athletic ability and didn’t learn the proper way to play QB. It’s not talent, it’s football intelligence
It's definitely an eye opening situation for a lot of back up and unsigned QB's out there
Is Anthony Richardson healthy? if so he must be embarrassed
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Whats the difference for a WR though
A RB can take a step and fumble the ball on the goal line and it counts, but a WR can take multiple steps after the catch and if the ball moves at all it dose not count
Fire AJ Preller
Sanction wrote:
Go Denver
I like Denver too. Can't believe they're underdogs at home on Sunday.
Completely agree.
A couple years ago Adam Thielen caught a pass in the end zone, came down with both feet in bounds, was knocked to the ground landing on his butt, then elbow. When his elbow hit the turf, ball came loose as he went out of the back of the end zone.
No touchdown!
Load of fertilizer.
@perkdog, just saw a story questioning whether or not Joe Burrow wants out of Cincinnati. Maybe you're onto something!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Well it was my opinion that Cincy should trade him, I wasn't aware of Burrow being disgruntled but I did see a interview where he was saying he "Had alot going on professionally and personally" which I thought was pretty weird to say at a press conference, he added that "What's the point if it isn't fun" regarding playing.
He is turning 29 which is still young for a QB but regardless I'm sure it's weighing heavy on everyone in the organization that here they are again with a very slim chance of making the playoffs and again him missing a lot of time due to injury
They could get a lot for him and might be better off
If the interpretation of that interview and comment is that he's considering an early retirement than trading him is the way to go. I wonder if the constant rather serious injuries are starting to weigh on him?? Right now he has 3-4 separate areas of his body that have been surgically repaired and if he's dealing with issues of pain and constant rehab maybe he's exhausted. Who could blame him, certainly not me. Every player has a different tolerance of pain and a limit to injuries.
I'm undergoing surgery on Dec.19th, but I don't have to be ready to compete in anything and get pounded by 300 lb. lineman. Hats off to JB, if he steps away I'd bet he would be a good coach at some level.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
For sure, it happened with Andrew Luck so. it could happen with Burrow
I believe your in your early 70's so it's quite unfair for you to. compare yourself to. a 29 year old youngster just so you know lol
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I think any future teams interest would take a cautious approach to his acquisition. What with his penchant for injury. But the risk may be worth the reward.
If Denver runs the table and wins its next for games to end the season at 15-2, I wonder how the Broncos will then be viewed by the sports media and general public.
Most likely still not favorably.
I think a lot of teams would bite, probably the Browns would be first in line then the Jets.
Looking at it if my Pats still had Mac Jones and were slogging through a 6-11 season I'd swap 2 first rounders for him
in my mind there's a rigid dichotomy between formidable and the Denver Broncos, regardless of their record. but i feel the same exact way about my team, the Bears. i haven't been sold on either of them all season, even amid all the success. on its face it seems unconventional, but for me personally i'm able to compartmentalize the wins & losses and the eye test i take every time i watch them play. i just wouldn't be scared of either team come playoffs time. in fact, i'd relish the opportunity to take them out.
and that's IF my team even makes it, which they may very well not. yours is definitely in, and i hope they make a fruitful run despite everything i just said.
Carson Palmer did it after 8 years in Cincinnati. Went on to play another 10 years on different teams. Cincinnati is the cheapest franchise in sports. His offensive line has ranked 25th or worse the last 5 years. I’d be surprised if Chase is the next player not having fun. Burrow is too important to the league and way too good to waste another day in Cincinnati
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
We’ve seen 15 win teams not do well in the playoffs. Here’s my personal take on Denver and New England.
Cruising through an easy schedule doesn’t prepare you for the playoffs. Beating bad teams 30-10 or 14-13 doesn’t bode well against teams that are seasoned from previous playoff experience. Both will make the playoffs with a home game so we shall see if the playoffs exposes their weaknesses bad teams couldn’t take advantage of.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
If JB moved it better be to a team with a strong offensive line to offer the best protection.
How does Todd Bowles still have a HC position?
It's baffling
How do you win a game committing 19 penalties?
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@2dueces said: How do you win a game committing 19 penalties?
Not only that, how does an NFL team commit 19 penalties in a game?? Considering there were 127 plays run by both teams it means that Atlanta had a penalty after every 7th play.
I love to be at the team meeting when they discuss this!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
19 penalties is grotesque, but what makes me want to drive my car into a pole is watching a team that allows another team to convert 3rd & 28 with the game on the line
it's too much for my brain to handle
agreed. I cant imagine publicly throwing your own players under the bus that way. if need be, that should happen at the team facility behind closed doors.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Joe B's comments definitely give me the Andrew Luck vibes.
I would hate to see him retire young. I would understand it though.
what good is $100MM dollars if it hurts to climb stairs and just move around.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Thanks for reminding me. Hate the Eagles.
A 28 yard pass play on 4th and 26 that was so unbelievable it has its own Wiki page.
has anyone heard if Rivers is starting this week?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Colts fans hope so, anything but Richardson starting lol
One (RB) already has possession, the other has to establish it. In the case of the RB, the play is over as soon as the ball breaks the goal line, assuming he still has possession.
Why should a WR though have to do significantly more
Fire AJ Preller
what about the toe tap TD catches on the edge of the end zone? all the receiver does is catch and get 2 toes in bounds. no "football move" involved.
the receiver in the Baltimore game caught the ball, had 2 feet in bounds and then had the ball knocked out.
what am i missing?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Nothing except the call was 100% BS incompetence
Will the Denver Broncos send the GB Packers packin' tomorrow? I believe it's considered the "NFL Game of the Week".
To me, it's Denver's chance to show the country that they're for real.
I will be watching Denver v. Green Bay tomorrow.
Hopefully my favorite team will notch its 11th straight win and go to 12-2 on the season. Sure would like to see Denver take the #1 seed in the AFC and get a first round bye in the playoffs.
Bills/Pats a co game of the week as well.
I’ll pass on the former and really enjoy the latter. My hope is that New England hands Buffalo their hat.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Just Bad officials since the NFL wont make them full time and a pass catch rule that needs to be rewritten
Fire AJ Preller
Pats vs Bills
Denver vs Green Bay
Detroit vs LA
This is called a slate full of tilts!!!
Well Rivers is starting
Fire AJ Preller
I cannot believe he is starting, good for him staying in shape after such a long layoff
I can't imagine he will be all that effective
Bills - Pats. We shall see if the soft schedule has a late season effect. If the pats win this game I will admit they are for real.
Denver- Green Bay. Can the Broncos sleep for 3 quarters every game and win ? Sorry, not tomorrow. Green Bay is a seasoned team and Denver will need more than 10 points in the first 45 minutes
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
BTW Congratulations are in order for Josh and Hailee expecting their first child.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@2dueces, I wonder if the new baby will have True Grit?!?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Hes been coaching a Alabama HS team I forget the name.
They definitely need the game of their life though with the OL. I liked him a lot but even in his prime he couldnt really run
Fire AJ Preller
I couldn't stand him, I respect him being competitive but i just remember him pouting on the sidelines when losing to the Patriots in the playoffs, him and LT both
He did play with a torn ACL though and have to respect that.
LT and Gates just never seemed to be able to stay healthy when it came to the playoffs. Marty always just went into trying to run out the clock second hafe which was dumb
I dont doubt Rivers toughness but I dont have high hopes for him at this point
Fire AJ Preller
I find myself rooting for Rivers in the same way my dad rooted for Nolan ryan back in the early 90s. hoping the old guy can show those yunguns we middle aged guys have still got it!!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I don’t put a ton of value into NFL positional rankings. What a diss track though for McCarthy ranked below Rivers this week for QB rankings.
I hope to be around watching Little Josh play QB for the Bills
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Imagine all the QB2’s and QB3’s on other rosters thoughts this week. Why?
I’ll give it to them straight. A 44 year old, 5 years removed can still read defenses better than the whole lot of you. You got by on athletic ability and didn’t learn the proper way to play QB. It’s not talent, it’s football intelligence
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
It's definitely an eye opening situation for a lot of back up and unsigned QB's out there
Is Anthony Richardson healthy? if so he must be embarrassed
Richardson is still on the IR
Bills in an early hole and not looking good.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Bills offense non-existent and their defense is looking like a sieve, the Patriots are now up 21-0 and seem to be real.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin